Billy Hayes...is he for real?

[guvenor]

but do you still get your shift allwnce cos they stole that from deliv as well

[dvbuk55]

Maybe delivery people voted NO but what about all the non delivery people who were getting £20.60 for f#ck all

well i am non delivery staff but i don't get the 20 quid so that argument falls flat on its face.there is a world outside of the delivery network you know.

For how long? There's a whole new world a'comin to the secondary disciplines........transport............mail centres.......nice little nuggets for a private firm to hive off and re-establish a reasonable production level

[krussel]

I am sorry but Billy Hayes was totally out of his depth when interviewed on tv in the last action. He appeared hung over and a bumbling fool. Dave Ward did much better even though his not a front man. What the CWU needed was a good front man ( a red Ken type) who comes across in the media with some degree of honesty and gets our point across without appearing too strong and thus turning the public against us. He should really go as his already proved his not up the job in 2010, let alone 2011 and beyond.

[youwot!!!!!]

Maybe delivery people voted NO but what about all the non delivery people who were getting £20.60 for f#ck all

well i am non delivery staff but i don't get the 20 quid so that argument falls flat on its face.there is a world outside of the delivery network you know.

For how long? There's a whole new world a'comin to the secondary disciplines........transport............mail centres.......nice little nuggets for a private firm to hive off and re-establish a reasonable production level

exactly.you have just proven my point.
all functions have their problems so get your head out of your arse and realise that we are ALL in the s**t together.

[dblad]

I was naive, i read the missive that came in the post, with a recommendation to vote yes, so I did.... At the time we had no local rep.

Never again.

And there is probably the answer to why this agreement was accepted.
No fiddle.no indoor staff screwing delivery..just a reliance on the naivety and lack of information of the membership.
This time they even got a roadshow and a DVD.

And we haven't heard from them since.

[krussel]

No-one will admit to voting for any agreement..that's human nature...it doesn't mean they didn't.

I voted Yes to the Way forward agreement

I was naive, i read the missive that came in the post, with a recommendation to vote yes, so I did.... At the time we had no local rep.

Never again.

Well done mailmonkey for being honest

Trouble is if your not a long service member its quite easy to believe the all the information you are being shown by the CWU and RM and end up thinking "what the heck we wont do any better" and then vote yes. Then it actually comes down to handling the work (ive had 6 large d2d,s this week) and you realise the mistake.

We live and learn at Royal mail and often its done the hard way