Simple Question Deal or no Deal

[DirtyHarry]

Any chance of a grown-up response from you DH?

[AnotherLimey]

Before our office signed the deal, the part time staff were made to believe that everyone would get the same money, regardless of what contract you had. An emergency meeting was raised that any part time staff that got made up to full time would receive the bonus as pro rata. This caused much upset as we were told one thing and got something else instead. Same goes with the walk sequencing, that 85% of mail would be walk sequenced and this was shown on a slide show displaying everything that would happen if moderisation went ahead. So far over the weeks we have had around 65% of walk sequenced and all the overheads on the ips are wrong resulting in missorts when sorting at our frames. The trolleys were mentioned in the team brief explaining that this would take weight off your shoulder. The first week not one person took a trolley out with them, which means nothing has really changed apart from new uniform and new vans that are way smaller than the combos. Some are still breaking our backs and for what? Its not about doing the job properly, the general consensus within our office now is to get the job done as quick as possible without the need of using the tools which are provided for us.Trusting royal mail is a complete joke now, they tell us that you can complete a walk within your allocated time frame, this is unachievable and will be for some time. They are purposely making the duties to big for the doms just to turn round and say you can do it, adding more pressure for us posties to complete it on time. Were traffic figures actually processed into geo route or was it just a case of lets see how long it takes joe bloggs to walk from this area to the next without taking into account how much mail 700 houses get within a week or even a month. Some houses and i only mean SOME, get about 10+ letters every day this is mostly junk but it still takes some time to prep and deliver. Its all guess work in this job and the deal has not been worth the paper its written on, its all about guessing. You wouldn't agree with everything that google maps says if you planned a route and google shown it only takes 30 minutes to get to your destination, when in fact it could take you more like 35-40 minutes due to the time of day that you travel in. You have to have a bit of leeway when its comes to planning walks out, and this is something that has been missed out completley on purpose.


Basic pay may have gone up over the past decade or so, but over time rates have dropped considerably and will continue to drop. Same applies to other perks which have been taken away from some of us over time like the early morning allowance. Over time rates have dropped over the years because royal mail know that its costing them to much money to sustain in the current climate and they also know that alot of people do overtime so its cheaper to cut overtime rates than give someone a full time contract.

Both parties are falling to pieces and the cwu are clinging on for dear life and that maybe one of the reasons why the union have been closer to the royal mail than ever before. Just like the rest of us were all wondering what will be round the next corner. Were already one year into the deal just another two to go and there could be more trouble when the next time both parties get round the table.

Great post and something Dingo and his like should take notice of!

[Lincox]

Dingo, you were going to provide us with some facts on what incomes were averaging in Royal Mail over the last decade or two, compared to average earnings now, albeit basic income has risen, I believe that average income has remained pretty static. Can you please provide those figures.

[grunt59]

plus ca change.......plus cest la meme chose....as they say in france....or we are f***ed as we say in the uk...see you at the bottom.......

[dvbuk55]

Dingo, you were going to provide us with some facts on what incomes were averaging in Royal Mail over the last decade or two, compared to average earnings now, albeit basic income has risen, I believe that average income has remained pretty static. Can you please provide those figures.

Still waiting then Lincox...................perhaps the figures weren't as flattering as made out?

[Lincox]

Absolutley right. Just like the deal of the century.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Absolutley right. Just like the deal of the century.

DOC as I have taken to calling it - some are a bit bugs bunny over it

[dvbuk55]

Absolutley right. Just like the deal of the century.

DOC as I have taken to calling it - some are a bit bugs bunny over it

I like it Can we have that added to the RM acronym list.