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CWU Waste of time.

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fishtank
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Re: CWU Waste of time.

Post by fishtank »

The total membership determines income MoC...which in turn determines expenditure...which in turn determines just how many full-time reps and officials the union can justify.
As your membership decreases so you must cut your cloth accordingly.
It has already been noted that we have a union structure designed to support 300,000 members...and a membership base of less than 65% of that figure....so you do the maths.
To say that full-time officials will not be worrying about the decline in membership would mean that they were unable to grasp simple economics...i don't think that's true.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
hummingbird's_wings
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Re: CWU Waste of time.

Post by hummingbird's_wings »

Broxi51 wrote:An office close by to mine was due to sign an agreement for their revision. The union rep said that a ballot would have to take place first.
There are 40 members of staff but only 20 are in the CWU and so only the 20 got a vote.
The non members were truly pi**ed off but, hey, rules are rules :chuckle
No result in as yet as the ballot only started a week ago.
how bizarre , this sounds like you could be talking about an office i know rather well . they have a similar amount of staff and probably a similar ratio of members/non members , and there was a ballot started about the same time , the only difference being that the non members in the office i know , are for the most part indifferent about not getting a vote .
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Re: CWU Waste of time.

Post by goldy »

Dont agree with this statement although the d2d thing is a disaster especially for pts. I went to put in a grievence against my lino because of what i thougt was h&b and the rep managed to put me off i just wonder if there is something going on at our office or does this happen regulary.
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Re: CWU Waste of time.

Post by Big Daz »

Sometimes reps have to tell mbrs what they need to hear not what they want to hear. If I had a mbr whose grumble was in my view something for the greviance procedure rather than the B&H procedure then I would steer them to away from B & H procedure.

CWU has a harrasment line and email address which mbrs can use use to seek a second opinion if they felt their reps view was incorrect.
Broxi51
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Re: CWU Waste of time.

Post by Broxi51 »

hummingbird's_wings wrote:
Broxi51 wrote:An office close by to mine was due to sign an agreement for their revision. The union rep said that a ballot would have to take place first.
There are 40 members of staff but only 20 are in the CWU and so only the 20 got a vote.
The non members were truly pi**ed off but, hey, rules are rules :chuckle
No result in as yet as the ballot only started a week ago.
how bizarre , this sounds like you could be talking about an office i know rather well . they have a similar amount of staff and probably a similar ratio of members/non members , and there was a ballot started about the same time , the only difference being that the non members in the office i know , are for the most part indifferent about not getting a vote .

Unlikely the same office mate. One of your posts referred to strike on every saturday and the office I am talking about NEVER, EVER strike.
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hummingbird's_wings
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Re: CWU Waste of time.

Post by hummingbird's_wings »

Broxi51 wrote:
hummingbird's_wings wrote:
Broxi51 wrote:An office close by to mine was due to sign an agreement for their revision. The union rep said that a ballot would have to take place first.
There are 40 members of staff but only 20 are in the CWU and so only the 20 got a vote.
The non members were truly pi**ed off but, hey, rules are rules :chuckle
No result in as yet as the ballot only started a week ago.
how bizarre , this sounds like you could be talking about an office i know rather well . they have a similar amount of staff and probably a similar ratio of members/non members , and there was a ballot started about the same time , the only difference being that the non members in the office i know , are for the most part indifferent about not getting a vote .

Unlikely the same office mate. One of your posts referred to strike on every saturday and the office I am talking about NEVER, EVER strike.
must be a weak bunch if they didn't strike last time , although it was pointless in the end :sad:
" everyone is wise until he speaks "
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Re: CWU Waste of time.

Post by bunkerland »

Broxi51 wrote:
hummingbird's_wings wrote:
Broxi51 wrote:An office close by to mine was due to sign an agreement for their revision. The union rep said that a ballot would have to take place first.
There are 40 members of staff but only 20 are in the CWU and so only the 20 got a vote.
The non members were truly pi**ed off but, hey, rules are rules :chuckle
No result in as yet as the ballot only started a week ago.
how bizarre , this sounds like you could be talking about an office i know rather well . they have a similar amount of staff and probably a similar ratio of members/non members , and there was a ballot started about the same time , the only difference being that the non members in the office i know , are for the most part indifferent about not getting a vote .

Unlikely the same office mate. One of your posts referred to strike on every saturday and the office I am talking about NEVER, EVER strike.
This definitely sounds like an office i know too Broxi!(except for the never going on strike bit) Which sector is it in and what news is there of their revision ballot result?
cantbelieveit's...
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Re: CWU Waste of time.

Post by cantbelieveit's... »

packmule wrote:Whats wrong with our union is they don't f**kin listen to its members. Like Politicians promise the world till they have a position then its f**k you I'm all right.

d2d or delivery supplement, early start allowance, dignity & respect etc etc the list go's on ...................

soon to be ex union member :wave :wave :wave
Packmule, your username says it all, You are willing to be a pack mule rather than stand up and fight for whats right.
Leaving the CWU is going to do what exactly?? Are you also quiting royal mail?? It was a two sided agreement, the union didn't exactly want the agreement but it's what had to be done.If royal mail had there own way it would be a whole lot worse. Instead of leaving your branch become more involved and change things your not happy with. Leaving the CWU will do NOTHING, only strenghen Royal Mails hand.
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Re: CWU Waste of time.

Post by bunkerland »

Broxi51 wrote:

Unlikely the same office mate. One of your posts referred to strike on every saturday and the office I am talking about NEVER, EVER strike.

Still no news of that ballot result in the office that "NEVER,EVER strike" with the "truly pissed off non union members" Broxi?

Dinnae tell us half a story pal,you've given us the build up,now give us the result,please! :Very Happy Oh,and what sector did you say it was in again? :hmmmm
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Re: CWU Waste of time.

Post by bunkerland »

Your silence is deafening Broxi,and says it all!! ;liar ;liar
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Re: CWU Waste of time.

Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

bunkerland wrote:Your silence is deafening Broxi,and says it all!! ;liar ;liar
Why - it says nothing.

You are asking for information that could expose his true identity which in 2007 caused some people to be sacked because of what they had posted. The nature of a on line discussion means that most things have to be taken on face value and credibility of the person posting. Broxi has a fair amount of credibility on here, your last post has probably lost you some.
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Re: CWU Waste of time.

Post by bunkerland »

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
bunkerland wrote:Your silence is deafening Broxi,and says it all!! ;liar ;liar
Why - it says nothing.

You are asking for information that could expose his true identity which in 2007 caused some people to be sacked because of what they had posted. The nature of a on line discussion means that most things have to be taken on face value and credibility of the person posting. Broxi has a fair amount of credibility on here, your last post has probably lost you some.

TBT,i totally understand the need for anonymity when posting on here and that is why i was only asking for the sector,rather than the actual office he was posting specific information about! Fact is i know exactly who he is and which office he's talking about and so do many of the workers there who are members of this forum! Fine if you want to chuck in a few "little untruths" to distance yourself from it,but why slur it with "NEVER EVER STRIKE" lies which deeply offend the office in question!