im getting prepared for the meeting fill like a sodden solicitor been looking at agreements galore think i got a good case just need to get backing of divisional union rep if he signs off over my head he will be makeing a nonsence of the whole agreement as i have facts galoredvbuk55 wrote:You will need the support of the higher union echelons though - if they say there is no case, whether there is or isn't, you'll be out on a limb and they will agree to let the revision go in by EA.postman8 wrote:clashcityrocker wrote:How big is the office?postman8 wrote:i can beat the lot of you my office has been planning a revision for 17 months ...
we are only a small office of 37 but we are a awkward set of b******s
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It's a no from my D.O
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Good test case then pmn8 - keep us posted on the developments - perhaps you will find out where the loyalties of the CWU full time reps lay with the membership or not.postman8 wrote:im getting prepared for the meeting fill like a sodden solicitor been looking at agreements galore think i got a good case just need to get backing of divisional union rep if he signs off over my head he will be makeing a nonsence of the whole agreement as i have facts galoredvbuk55 wrote:You will need the support of the higher union echelons though - if they say there is no case, whether there is or isn't, you'll be out on a limb and they will agree to let the revision go in by EA.postman8 wrote:clashcityrocker wrote:How big is the office?postman8 wrote:i can beat the lot of you my office has been planning a revision for 17 months ...
we are only a small office of 37 but we are a awkward set of b******s
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He don't need whatnots! any chance he could send me some of his thingymajigs though.dvbuk55 wrote:I couldn't agree moreclashcityrocker wrote:Even if that happens - 17 months is a remarkable achievement.
Postman should be sending him honorary whatnots.for the solidarity shown.
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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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dvbuk55 wrote:You will need the support of the higher union echelons though - if they say there is no case, whether there is or isn't, you'll be out on a limb and they will agree to let the revision go in by EA.postman8 wrote:clashcityrocker wrote:How big is the office?postman8 wrote:i can beat the lot of you my office has been planning a revision for 17 months ...
we are only a small office of 37 but we are a awkward set of b******s
That is exactly what happened withe 2004 SDD revision at my D.O
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Yep! And getting more awkward, and more united as this shambles progresses.postman8 wrote:
we are only a small office of 37 but we are a awkward set of b******s
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the manager has been asking for last 2 days for terms of disagreement even tho i told him not ready yet was going to get something to him for saturday ready for next tuesdays meeting but had a hand delivered letter in my door when i got home formaly asking for heads of disagreement document .mailmonkey wrote:Yep! And getting more awkward, and more united as this shambles progresses.postman8 wrote:
we are only a small office of 37 but we are a awkward set of b******s
he has given me untill close of play monday so guess that means i got an extra couple of days (like i said we are awkward b******s)
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postman8 wrote:the manager has been asking for last 2 days for terms of disagreement even tho i told him not ready yet was going to get something to him for saturday ready for next tuesdays meeting but had a hand delivered letter in my door when i got home formaly asking for heads of disagreement document .mailmonkey wrote:Yep! And getting more awkward, and more united as this shambles progresses.postman8 wrote:
we are only a small office of 37 but we are a awkward set of b******s
he has given me untill close of play monday so guess that means i got an extra couple of days (like i said we are awkward b******s)
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If your office has this brought in by E/A and its agreed with the DIV/AREA rep will you lads accept it or will you stand on the gate.
Little scenario here for you Revision brought in by E/A out on the gate for 4 days cost to R/M £165 grand 3 months of trying to cope with there ill plotted revision .
Result uturn by R/M and a revision the office will accept its rather simple.
But it gets you thinking how many offices will just accept these revisions on the say so of the DIV/AREA rep.
This is were you see if your offices has balls or not but good luck mate and keep us posted.
Little scenario here for you Revision brought in by E/A out on the gate for 4 days cost to R/M £165 grand 3 months of trying to cope with there ill plotted revision .
Result uturn by R/M and a revision the office will accept its rather simple.
But it gets you thinking how many offices will just accept these revisions on the say so of the DIV/AREA rep.
This is were you see if your offices has balls or not but good luck mate and keep us posted.
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Got a revision supposed to be starting monday but been put off again for another week. Area been split into two, 3 offices going in next week 8 in the new year.Planner just cant seem to grasp that you cannot get 5 D2D items 15 small letters and 8 flats into one space on the RM2000 been told to double up every hole on the frame. 
.Been given less than two weeks to do a resign of 95 staff when 6 of the top ten were on annual leave. Was told that a resign should be done in 2 days when i told him that under paragraph 16.4 of the way forward a resign should take no longer than a month, he huffed and puffed and walked out telling me to email it to him. 
Think next week could be quite intresting
.Been given less than two weeks to do a resign of 95 staff when 6 of the top ten were on annual leave. Was told that a resign should be done in 2 days when i told him that under paragraph 16.4 of the way forward a resign should take no longer than a month, he huffed and puffed and walked out telling me to email it to him. Think next week could be quite intresting-
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we had a revision meeting this week and voted it out, dim has gone on a 3 week cruise and left lino to sort it out, a few of us wanted to have input on it before but was snubbed so this time we are leaving it them again,
Our DO is collapsing under the weight of packects and they wanted to cut a driving duty out and lino was out in a van delivering bring on revision lol
Essex mum well done to postman 8
Our DO is collapsing under the weight of packects and they wanted to cut a driving duty out
and lino was out in a van delivering bring on revision lolEssex mum well done to postman 8
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Well Done Postman8 and crew Meant to start our new duties 1st Nov! Due to usual probs it's now been put back until mid Nov. DIMs coming the Manuels: Everytime you ask him something he say's, "I know nothing!". 
Disappears to a meeting and then produces half a dozen new ideas he wants implemented. He literally hasn't told ANYONE- ANYTHING no-one has a clue what duties they're going to be signing for, or if indeed what these duties are!
And it's all going to be sorted in the next 10 days? I don't think so.
Meant to start our new duties 1st Nov! Due to usual probs it's now been put back until mid Nov. DIMs coming the Manuels: Everytime you ask him something he say's, "I know nothing!". Disappears to a meeting and then produces half a dozen new ideas he wants implemented. He literally hasn't told ANYONE- ANYTHING no-one has a clue what duties they're going to be signing for, or if indeed what these duties are!
And it's all going to be sorted in the next 10 days? I don't think so.
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we're going live in 2 weeks,new walks are on the wall,been told town walks only on this date,rurals after xmas,we ain't got a clue whats happening
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My Office is intending to implement it in January, from all these stories coming out about failed revisions, surely it must be time to stop and say "look its not working scrap it and go back the way it was before"
It takes a lot of courage to admit you are wrong, if this goes Nationwide,there is only so many linos and spare staff to go around, it would mean a total collapse of postal service and chaos in the UK with questions asked in parliament, this madness must stop, there no more meat left on the bone, we have cut too far and too deep.
If its working well, don't try to fix it !
It takes a lot of courage to admit you are wrong, if this goes Nationwide,there is only so many linos and spare staff to go around, it would mean a total collapse of postal service and chaos in the UK with questions asked in parliament, this madness must stop, there no more meat left on the bone, we have cut too far and too deep.
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Yes and when it all goes tits up, the answers in parliament, will be theres no reason these plans should not work ,the computer says it can be done and it's just those militant postman who refuse to modernise, and another reason to rush ahead with privatisation.We know tis is all bull but will they listen to us.