Smaller offices wont get bonuses

[belle smith]

Correct. We've been told today that once our revision goes through we get the 600 and 200 (we already have WSM). But the 200 for a non-sequenced revision, which we haven't had, will only be paid upon a further revision and further savings in April next year

Their pulling a fast one. The 200 for a non sequenced revision you get paid in conjuction with the 6oo for a sequenced one if you go straight to a sequenced revision. The other 200 you get a minimum of 6 weeks after that.

[POSTMAN]

Correct. We've been told today that once our revision goes through we get the 600 and 200 (we already have WSM). But the 200 for a non-sequenced revision, which we haven't had, will only be paid upon a further revision and further savings in April next year

Their pulling a fast one. The 200 for a non sequenced revision you get paid in conjuction with the 6oo for a sequenced one if you go straight to a sequenced revision. The other 200 you get a minimum of 6 weeks after that.

Where's this f***ing new trust!!

[belle smith]

So we've already been Geo-routed (No need for a non-sequenced revision)

Do you have CDV's?

and if we get walk sequenced mail,we don't neccesarily need a revision?

Do you have 3hr30min delivery span? if not you will get a revision to go with your sequenced mail.

[belle smith]

Where's this f***ing new trust!!

Never existed for me!

[robd]

So we've already been Geo-routed (No need for a non-sequenced revision)

Do you have CDV's?

and if we get walk sequenced mail,we don't neccesarily need a revision?

Do you have 3hr30min delivery span? if not you will get a revision to go with your sequenced mail.

No CDV's,and currently no plans for them.
Yes,we are still on 3hr30 delivery spans.
What concerns me regarding the lump sum payments is,we have been told our attendance will not change,and confirmed we will still be doing a 7 hour Saturday.
i thought because of the machines you had to concede saturday would become a full days attendance,if they can do this,why bother going through a revision,and spending something like £75000 in the process.

[belle smith]

No CDV's,and currently no plans for them.
Yes,we are still on 3hr30 delivery spans.
What concerns me regarding the lump sum payments is,we have been told our attendance will not change,and confirmed we will still be doing a 7 hour Saturday.
i thought because of the machines you had to concede saturday would become a full days attendance,if they can do this,why bother going through a revision,and spending something like £75000 in the process.

They want these revisions in!
I think the 7 hour Saturday may be a carrot to overlook other things.
Our DOM mentioned about leaving mailsort 3 on a Saturday as well if he's allowed. What happend to standardised work day?

[fishtank]

I think the 7 hour Saturday may be a carrot to overlook other things.

That carrot has been dangled just a few miles down the road from you....1.15pm finish on a saturday....honest.

[BELIAL]

Whatnots;do dahs ;uojimaflips ; all looks like carnage to me,long live the local agreement

[belle smith]

I think the 7 hour Saturday may be a carrot to overlook other things.

That carrot has been dangled just a few miles down the road from you....1.15pm finish on a saturday....honest.

I belive you, funny thing is it's not part of the agreement!
NO WAY IT STANDS LONG TERM!

[OnAFlyer]

Correct. We've been told today that once our revision goes through we get the 600 and 200 (we already have WSM). But the 200 for a non-sequenced revision, which we haven't had, will only be paid upon a further revision and further savings in April next year

Their pulling a fast one. The 200 for a non sequenced revision you get paid in conjuction with the 6oo for a sequenced one if you go straight to a sequenced revision. The other 200 you get a minimum of 6 weeks after that.

The problem is (and the CWU have f*cked up here again suprise suprise) is that the wording in the agreement isn't absolutely nailed down. It's open to interpretation. And what do RM do when that happens?

Our office doesn't usually get done over by what can we do? If anyone has some solid extracts from the agreement that say you get both revision bonuses at once if you've already got WSM then i'll take it in and we'll fight for it.

[belle smith]

Correct. We've been told today that once our revision goes through we get the 600 and 200 (we already have WSM). But the 200 for a non-sequenced revision, which we haven't had, will only be paid upon a further revision and further savings in April next year

Their pulling a fast one. The 200 for a non sequenced revision you get paid in conjuction with the 6oo for a sequenced one if you go straight to a sequenced revision. The other 200 you get a minimum of 6 weeks after that.

The problem is (and the CWU have f*cked up here again suprise suprise) is that the wording in the agreement isn't absolutely nailed down. It's open to interpretation. And what do RM do when that happens?

Our office doesn't usually get done over by what can we do? If anyone has some solid extracts from the agreement that say you get both revision bonuses at once if you've already got WSM then i'll take it in and we'll fight for it.

That CWU have f****d up the agreement genrally i won't dispute. Not on this they haven't. You's are entiteld to your money and there is no other interpratation.

Your office doesn't usually get done over?
i thought you said in another thread that to your horror they voted to accept i in 6 Saturdays off! even though the minimum is 1 in 4!

Ps. not having a go at you. Our office gets done over all the time as well, since we had D2D included in our workload we do more lapsing

[Big Daz]

Weve just completed the tabletop revision, well, what i mean by that is i just agreed to the savings they wanted so that the members get their first bonus for x mas.

Of course this is gonna fck a lot of people up, because the hours wont be there. But the way i see it, the only people who wont be fked up is the people who do the job properly, and at finish time either cut off or claim. Tired of blocking savings so the runners can make a fool of me. The runners and the managers are gonna find it difficult from now on, me
, and my loyal members are in docket heaven from now

[OnAFlyer]

Your office doesn't usually get done over?
i thought you said in another thread that to your horror they voted to accept i in 6 Saturdays off! even though the minimum is 1 in 4!

Ps. not having a go at you. Our office gets done over all the time as well, since we had D2D included in our workload we do more lapsing

They didn't vote to accept it, the staff in our office actually voted for it instead of 8 other options. We could have had 1 week off in 4, 1 weekend off in 2, etc etc. We've only been done over on that because they've done themselves over (and the ones like me that didnt vote for that option!)

I can understand now why every single agreement gets voted in by the membership, I mean who in their right mind would turn down allsorts of other options in order to work 5 out of 6 Saturdays?

I still can't find anything in the agreement that clarifies our situation though. It just says '£200 to be paid on the first non-walk sequenced revision' Can someone point me in the direction of where it says we will get this £200 if we have a sequenced revision only?

We haven't had a non-sequenced revision and nor will we be getting one.

[POSTMAN]

Annex C
Transformation Lump Sum Payments and Shorter Working Week
Delivery
Applicable to all Delivery Units including SPDO’s.
Lump Sums
The payment of £1,000 (pro rata for part time employees) consisting of 3 lump sums will be paid as follows.
£200 will be paid to everyone in the delivery unit on deployment of their first non walk sequencing revision.
£600 will be paid to everyone in the delivery unit on deployment of the walk sequencing revision.
£200 will be paid to everyone in the delivery unit when the Walk Sequencing revision has been implemented, and objectives achieved in line with the local agreement and no later than the end of the 6 week bedding in period.
SPDOs
All SPDOs will receive the £600 and £200 payments in line with their parent delivery unit.
Shorter Working Week
To be implemented in all Delivery Units in line with the Walk Sequencing revision.

[lufcpostie]

Annex C
Transformation Lump Sum Payments and Shorter Working Week
Delivery
Applicable to all Delivery Units including SPDO’s.
Lump Sums
The payment of £1,000 (pro rata for part time employees) consisting of 3 lump sums will be paid as follows.
£200 will be paid to everyone in the delivery unit on deployment of their first non walk sequencing revision.
£600 will be paid to everyone in the delivery unit on deployment of the walk sequencing revision.
£200 will be paid to everyone in the delivery unit when the Walk Sequencing revision has been implemented, and objectives achieved in line with the local agreement and no later than the end of the 6 week bedding in period.
SPDOs
All SPDOs will receive the £600 and £200 payments in line with their parent delivery unit.
Shorter Working Week
To be implemented in all Delivery Units in line with the Walk Sequencing revision.

We`ve been told we`re getting £600 in 4 weeks when our walk sequence revision comes in and £200 approx six weeks after. However, the first £200 in the quote above (which I`ve highlighted) we`ve been told we will get in approx twelve months.
Can anyone quote me any document that says we get the first £200 with the £600 if we`ve gone straight to a walk sequencing revision?
Thanks in advance for any help.