dvbuk55 wrote:So we're back to the winners and losers scenario again - "get the best deal that you can" is that office by office, area by area, frame by frame - what on earth happened to collective bargaining..............surely each person who is paying the subs should expect the same treatment wherever they are employed - we know it doesn't happen of course but this agreement has done nothing to mend the situation.
There has always been winners and losers,now is no different locally.
Now the 'losers' should perhaps have more input and get more involved with what is going on in their office.
This is a massive revision,people need to wake up and get stuck in.
Postman. the deck is already stacked very firmly in RM's favour.
Getting stuck in will not change the parameters for pegasus and IWT.
dvbuk55 wrote:So we're back to the winners and losers scenario again - "get the best deal that you can" is that office by office, area by area, frame by frame - what on earth happened to collective bargaining..............surely each person who is paying the subs should expect the same treatment wherever they are employed - we know it doesn't happen of course but this agreement has done nothing to mend the situation.
There has always been winners and losers,now is no different locally.
Now the 'losers' should perhaps have more input and get more involved with what is going on in their office.
This is a massive revision,people need to wake up and get stuck in.
Well yours wasn't too massive postman, you merely reverted back to the duties pre interim agreement - whereas our changes took place in 2008 and did not come under the auspices of the interim agreement..................so to get back to this massive revision
Apparently they have tried to keep the walks pretty much the same. But they have taken 7 of them out! So if you are next a walk that has been taken out or even next to 2 walks that have been taken out then your walk is going to be huge! It's been done like this because the DOM doesn't want a major change on the IPS!
number one wrote:Apparently they have tried to keep the walks pretty much the same. But they have taken 7 of them out! So if you are next a walk that has been taken out or even next to 2 walks that have been taken out then your walk is going to be huge! It's been done like this because the DOM doesn't want a major change on the IPS!
dingo wrote:If the walks have been displayed then you will be at stage 3 of the agreement. These now need to be tested and negotations will take place. If a walk is down as taking 4 hours and you believe it is 5 hours get it tested.
No rep should sign off step 4 until the office is confident that the walks are correct , the attendances are done and of course the members have voted on the agreement.
rep and dom in our office has said ,we can not have a walk/van share tested
rep stated that head quarters wouldnt back us if we asked for one to be tested.
one of the divisions has 16 duties and being cut to 11 duties!!
its totally unrealistic not to test them.
Any of the posties that have saw the duties reckon they are closer to 6hours!!
the deck is already stacked very firmly in RM's favour
I fully understand this,but the stuff we're reading on here lately is unbelievable,why are some letting it go on? So frustrating to read.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been. My BFF Clash The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
Oh and one more thing the planner has been on holiday for two weeks and when he got back I confronted him about the state of some of the walks and he said that he did not do them the DOM has changed them from the ones he had planned!!
postmans right there why the f@@@ our they lettin them go on.we had one post up sayin they started last week and its gone tits up already,overtime paid everyday even SUNDAY wots goin on there,cant royal mail big wigs go to this office and say ,right ok its not workin lets f@@@ it all off
"Some day I will have the bottle to take the money"
dingo wrote:If the walks have been displayed then you will be at stage 3 of the agreement. These now need to be tested and negotations will take place. If a walk is down as taking 4 hours and you believe it is 5 hours get it tested.
No rep should sign off step 4 until the office is confident that the walks are correct , the attendances are done and of course the members have voted on the agreement.
rep and dom in our office has said ,we can not have a walk/van share tested rep stated that head quarters wouldnt back us if we asked for one to be tested.
one of the divisions has 16 duties and being cut to 11 duties!!
its totally unrealistic not to test them.
Any of the posties that have saw the duties reckon they are closer to 6hours!!
Did you just take your Rep's word for it. Or have you contaced HQ yourself?
It's possible (and IMHO very likley) that your Rep is lying about that.
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