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Part Timers Trying To Make Fools of Full Timers.

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Re: Part Timers Trying To Make Fools of Full Timers.

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Eric Cantona wrote:I'm one that does work my hours, but saying that I'm not going to rush around like a lunatic, if these guys(Full Timers) are finishing well before their time, mangers should find other work for them inside or outside, if they cant find work its the managers problem, maybe if full timer finishes early manager should say go and help part timer out there who is struggling..
One part timer at my office does it in the car and comes in early,races around like lunatic then does overtime, then to add the salt in the wound he tell the full timer "your walks a piece of piss"..
I know full timers that do exactly that!!

It's not just part time workers that race around.

I personally don't rush anywhere. If I can't do it by walking comfortably with my little legs, then it's not getting done.
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blade8t1 wrote:
Eric Cantona wrote:Why is it that when a Full timer goes on leave or on the sick the part timer comes on his or her walk runs around like a lunatic and finishes it in half the time the full timer would, what are they trying to proof ?
All I can say is the manages are looking at the times the part timer finishes and then lays into the full timer on his/her return, not taking into consideration the full timer has been on the ips sorting and lapsed as well. You part timers out there SLOW DOWN your cutting your own throats at the end of the day…and your trying to make a fool of your colleagues….
Totally barking up the wrong tree pal,you need to take a look from other peoples perspectives to understand it,firstly being the part timers.Either your too slow or dragging it out on purpose!.(especially if someone else can do it in half the time!)I would go for the latter as I see this on a daily basis from full timers(and their open and honest about it).Now that theres half of what used to come up through ips(and not due to mail dropping off,but more coming up through sequenced coded boxes)Us P/T's(30 hours anyways)come in at 8;15,2 hours after F/T's naturally.But by 8;15 F/T's are already on their large or better,in somecases theyve done and taking their lapsed out.All this lapsed s***e is causing no end of upset between F/Ts and P/Ts.People even fighting over differnce in opinions.Personally I think its all part of the RM plan.Divide and conquer and all that jazz.
Some of the part timers are coming in early, getting out earlier than the full timers, they don't absorb but come back in great time, and do overtime to make their wages up, Manager then asks the Full timer next day how come Johnny can do your walk with loads of time spare?? they don't take into consideration that Johnny came in 1 hour early than he should have done and Johnny never absorbed, and then customers give back mail to the full timer the next day saying that little Johnny wants to slow down, he had mail for the next avenue, in my avenue, he does every week.. the part timers just rush around and make a mockery out of the job, there young and don't give a toss basically...
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Eric Cantona wrote:
blade8t1 wrote:
Eric Cantona wrote:Why is it that when a Full timer goes on leave or on the sick the part timer comes on his or her walk runs around like a lunatic and finishes it in half the time the full timer would, what are they trying to proof ?
All I can say is the manages are looking at the times the part timer finishes and then lays into the full timer on his/her return, not taking into consideration the full timer has been on the ips sorting and lapsed as well. You part timers out there SLOW DOWN your cutting your own throats at the end of the day…and your trying to make a fool of your colleagues….
Totally barking up the wrong tree pal,you need to take a look from other peoples perspectives to understand it,firstly being the part timers.Either your too slow or dragging it out on purpose!.(especially if someone else can do it in half the time!)I would go for the latter as I see this on a daily basis from full timers(and their open and honest about it).Now that theres half of what used to come up through ips(and not due to mail dropping off,but more coming up through sequenced coded boxes)Us P/T's(30 hours anyways)come in at 8;15,2 hours after F/T's naturally.But by 8;15 F/T's are already on their large or better,in somecases theyve done and taking their lapsed out.All this lapsed s***e is causing no end of upset between F/Ts and P/Ts.People even fighting over differnce in opinions.Personally I think its all part of the RM plan.Divide and conquer and all that jazz.
Some of the part timers are coming in early, getting out earlier than the full timers, they don't absorb but come back in great time, and do overtime to make their wages up, Manager then asks the Full timer next day how come Johnny can do your walk with loads of time spare?? they don't take into consideration that Johnny came in 1 hour early than he should have done and Johnny never absorbed, and then customers give back mail to the full timer the next day saying that little Johnny wants to slow down, he had mail for the next avenue, in my avenue, he does every week.. the part timers just rush around and make a mockery out of the job, there young and don't give a toss basically...
Who's fault is this?is it the part timers fault that modern day gaffers are usually to dumb to take this into consideration? NO. So whilst I dont agree with ANYONE coming in early.it is certainly not the be all and end all of the problem.I hate my office at the moment,from the top;-I hate the stupid and more to the point ignorant and oblivious to their surroundings gaffers! .I hate the F/T hypocrites! the ones that have a problem that always comes round to it being "Part timers that did it!",But I also hate a good chunk of hypocrite Part timers too!.I hate my non-existent union rep! for being the first out the door everyday,and the first to finish everyday!.but when he makes an anouncement he says"job and off is gone!,theres no making time anyomore!(GRRRRRRrrrrrr :arrrghhh ).You have people slagging people off constantly!then being nice to their face!. heres a typical scenario;;;;;-

FTJohn;- What time you supposed to start Mick?
PTMick;- 8:15
(John and Mick then chat about crap for half hour,as you do,Mick then goes for his IPS)
John then turns to Dave.
John;-Did you hear that?he's come in 15 mins early!is he thick?.does he realise he's doing us all out of jobs?etc,etc,etc.
Meanwhile john forgets to add that he uses his car,for his lapsed part,for his bags,and to get him out there!.
So whos giving who time here? and being an absolute hypocrite and a cretin to boot!.
Im sorry Cantona but you sound no diferent to the Fulltimers that I have to listen to on a daily basis.You have started a thread not slagging off 1 person,but if you read your headline"Part timers trying to make fools of fulltimers" :left: .you are aiming it at the lot of us!.Tarring everybody because you got issues with one person!how narrow minded and naive are you?.
If you have issues with him,go and see HIM!,or better still,highlight this to the gaffers before hand.rather than expecting them to know all the ins and outs afterwards. :Boo hoo!
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blade8t1 Wrote>>if you read your headline"Part timers trying to make fools of fulltimers" .you are aiming it at the lot of us!.Tarring everybody because you got issues with one person!how narrow minded and naive are you?.

Blade I don't have a issue with one person, most P/Timers come in they think they are Jack the Lad and try to make fools of Full Timers, my day off Today passed my walk at 10 20 am, guess who was on it a Part timer, First I thought it was Usain Bolt, he was going like the clappers, part timers need to get a grip and slow down.
Here is one for you, Part Timer in my office can't do enough for the managers, overtime every day of the week, works his day off, never moans, he just seen a Holiday going cheap in September, asked the D.O.M for that week off. D.O.M. said NO, It bites back believe me, you can bend over backwards for the managers you still not thought of any better....
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Wonder are these Part Timers?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wlqqpzyLFM" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Guys,there are w*****s on both sides and the screws are in the middle making it worse!

Will i now need to post this in what,4 threads on the subject so far?
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Eric Cantona wrote:Wonder are these Part Timers?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wlqqpzyLFM" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Looks pretty pleased with himself,has he just been told he's covering your duty next week? :wink:
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bunkerland wrote:
Eric Cantona wrote:Wonder are these Part Timers?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wlqqpzyLFM" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Looks pretty pleased with himself,has he just been told he's covering your duty next week? :wink:
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Eric Cantona wrote:Part Timer in my office can't do enough for the managers, overtime every day of the week, works his day off, never moans, he just seen a Holiday going cheap in September, asked the D.O.M for that week off. D.O.M. said NO, It bites back believe me, you can bend over backwards for the managers you still not thought of any better....
may be part timers like me on 25 hours are glad to get over time to bump our wage up. :arrrghhh :arrrghhh
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im a part timer and i dont rush round even though the round i am covering at the moment is only small and the customers are complaining as the mail is late. as postman says they are idoits on f/t and p/t who rush round and just blaming one set of people is wrong. my round is never preped in the morning but the only person i blame is the lino........but i keeps me in the overtime :Very Happy
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There's a guy who rides past me every day, having finished his walk, whilst I'm still on my second bag. His walk is further away than mine, we start at the same time, yet he's done at 10.45. What the frak is going on? I hate him. He makes a mockery of the job and is the kind of guy who makes managers raise their eyebrows and think 'we ain't getting our money's worth'. He must go back to the DO because he's on a bike, and I'm certain he doesn't take it home. Having said that, I'm well aware of a number of people who finish at 11am day-by-day. One lad can do two walks in the time it takes me to do one (or else he's chucking the mail in the bin, either or).
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taurus88 wrote:There's a guy who rides past me every day, having finished his walk, whilst I'm still on my second bag. His walk is further away than mine, we start at the same time, yet he's done at 10.45. What the frak is going on? I hate him. He makes a mockery of the job and is the kind of guy who makes managers raise their eyebrows and think 'we ain't getting our money's worth'. He must go back to the DO because he's on a bike, and I'm certain he doesn't take it home. Having said that, I'm well aware of a number of people who finish at 11am day-by-day. One lad can do two walks in the time it takes me to do one (or else he's chucking the mail in the bin, either or).

1045 finish what time do they start their deliveries - I am FT and start at 6.00 - release at 0930 - 1st Letter at 10:00 usually - depends on day whether I am on start of 2nd bag or last bundle of 1st bag.
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POSTMAN wrote:Why are PT/FT walks so different?
I mean the size of them,why are they not roughly the same size,how many fecking revisions have we all had to get things right ffs!
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Some full timers are not doing themselves justice either. Instead of doing what they have agreed to do when they sold their sould to Satan in the last ballot, they don't stay to throw in ALL the pert time walks and can't wait to piss off out of the office before the pert timers have even started.
If all wlaks are set to be 3.5 hours (haha), then if the PT's can finish by 2pm, its obvious to the managers that the full timers who do one out of the office are leaving themselves wide open to increased workloads and the conduct code for 'unexcused delay!'. It WILL happen to some poor sod.
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Sharkeyes wrote:Some full timers are not doing themselves justice either. Instead of doing what they have agreed to do when they sold their sould to Satan in the last ballot, they don't stay to throw in ALL the pert time walks and can't wait to piss off out of the office before the pert timers have even started.
If all wlaks are set to be 3.5 hours (haha), then if the PT's can finish by 2pm, its obvious to the managers that the full timers who do one out of the office are leaving themselves wide open to increased workloads and the conduct code for 'unexcused delay!'. It WILL happen to some poor sod.
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