coxie wrote:should be doing that anyway, why say for 2 weeks only? are you not man enough to do it day in day out?
Some people can't afford to not work overtime or their days off so asking them to do it day in, day out, isn't feasible.
No-one should need to work overtime to pay for the essentials...luxuries can be sacrificed.
If you need overtime to live you are walking a tightrope wearing a blindfold in a thunderstorm and you will fall off.
I don't have a car, don't smoke, don't take foreign holidays and very rarely work overtime. Simple.
Erm......................................hows the eyesight and hearing LL
coxie wrote:should be doing that anyway, why say for 2 weeks only? are you not man enough to do it day in day out?
Some people can't afford to not work overtime or their days off so asking them to do it day in, day out, isn't feasible.
No-one should need to work overtime to pay for the essentials...luxuries can be sacrificed.
If you need overtime to live you are walking a tightrope wearing a blindfold in a thunderstorm and you will fall off.
I don't have a car, don't smoke, don't take foreign holidays and very rarely work overtime. Simple.
Erm......................................hows the eyesight and hearing LL
Luxuries can be sacrificed yes...but then whats the point of working...?
coxie wrote:should be doing that anyway, why say for 2 weeks only? are you not man enough to do it day in day out?
Some people can't afford to not work overtime or their days off so asking them to do it day in, day out, isn't feasible.
No-one should need to work overtime to pay for the essentials...luxuries can be sacrificed.
If you need overtime to live you are walking a tightrope wearing a blindfold in a thunderstorm and you will fall off.
I don't have a car, don't smoke, don't take foreign holidays and very rarely work overtime. Simple.
Erm......................................hows the eyesight and hearing LL
coxie wrote:should be doing that anyway, why say for 2 weeks only? are you not man enough to do it day in day out?
Some people can't afford to not work overtime or their days off so asking them to do it day in, day out, isn't feasible.
No-one should need to work overtime to pay for the essentials...luxuries can be sacrificed.
If you need overtime to live you are walking a tightrope wearing a blindfold in a thunderstorm and you will fall off.
I don't have a car, don't smoke, don't take foreign holidays and very rarely work overtime. Simple.
Erm......................................hows the eyesight and hearing LL
Luxuries can be sacrificed yes...but then whats the point of working...?
So that everyone on here doesn't criticise me as a lazy, good for nothing scrounger pestering the postman for a giro.
And the SA pays for my beer.
RM wont give out any more full time contracts until office revisions have been agreed and finalised. This wont happen until at least January when the d2d single envelop plan might start, apparently its only worth doing if there are 6 or more d2d items. Banging on about {Doing the job properly} again, Or DOM is having to reintroduce early morning sorting and stop lapsing as the majority of our office is now [doing the job properly] small changes,but working your hours and having a proper break etc etc can make a difference, and you cant get the sack for it
coxie wrote:should be doing that anyway, why say for 2 weeks only? are you not man enough to do it day in day out?
Some people can't afford to not work overtime or their days off so asking them to do it day in, day out, isn't feasible.
No-one should need to work overtime to pay for the essentials...luxuries can be sacrificed.
If you need overtime to live you are walking a tightrope wearing a blindfold in a thunderstorm and you will fall off.
When u r only working 25 hrs u need overtime to pay the bloody bills
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Reason:Name calling not allowed - official warning next time
Fishtank wrote
No-one should need to work overtime to pay for the essentials...luxuries can be sacrificed.
If you need overtime to live you are walking a tightrope wearing a blindfold in a thunderstorm and you will fall off.
When u r only working 25 hrs u need overtime to pay the bloody bills
I missed the name calling...TBT was too quick for me.
What you have to understand is the basic questions behind this and how to address them.
Why do Royal Mail prefer to give you a 25hr contract and pay you 15hrs overtime rather than give you a 40hr contract and a decent living wage?
What can we as members do to change this position?
Is your need to pay the bills in the short term actually weakening your chance of long term financial security?
I'm afraid as long as members continue to play the Royal Mail game...then they will play by Royal Mail's rules and those rules are screw the part-timers because they will always come back for more.
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Fishtank wrote
No-one should need to work overtime to pay for the essentials...luxuries can be sacrificed.
If you need overtime to live you are walking a tightrope wearing a blindfold in a thunderstorm and you will fall off.
When u r only working 25 hrs u need overtime to pay the bloody bills
I missed the name calling...TBT was too quick for me.
What you have to understand is the basic questions behind this and how to address them.
Why do Royal Mail prefer to give you a 25hr contract and pay you 15hrs overtime rather than give you a 40hr contract and a decent living wage?
What can we as members do to change this position?
Is your need to pay the bills in the short term actually weakening your chance of long term financial security?
I'm afraid as long as members continue to play the Royal Mail game...then they will play by Royal Mail's rules and those rules are screw the part-timers because they will always come back for more.
I completely understand but RM have you over a barrel and they know it. There are people who took the job and able to cope on the minimum they earned and did the overtime for the extra spends. Then their circumstances changed and now they have to do the overtime to earn a decent wage. They give out 10 hour contracts saying "there's plenty of overtime" so people take the job. If that person said, no thanks, they'd offer it to the next person. They'd not be short of people to recruit if they went out on the streets nowadays offering people contracts due to the amount of redundancies in the past year or so. So, rather than you getting an increased contract by refusing to do overtime until your contract is made up, they're more likely to take someone on a 1 hr contract who's desperate for work. Whilst that's truly altruistic, altruism doesn't pay the bills.
Eric Cantona wrote:I think the way we have been treated by Royal Mail and the CWU we should take the company and the union on ourselves and show solidarity, instead of sitting back week after week taking the same old crap, I’m going for the 1st week in October for two weeks only.
BAN OVERTIME.
WORK TO YOUR TIME.
TAKE YOUR BREAKS.
DON’T COME IN EARLY.
DON’T WORK YOUR DAY OFF.
NO CAR ON DELIVERY.
Do the job right and give the managers a run around, if you remembered when we were on strike the back log was cleared by overtime, when the heavy snow came last year the mail built up and up because nobody could really clear it, we need to do something like this again, the company would come to a standstill if we do this, who really needs the union, there doing nothing for us, I bet a union rep won't come on and say they are doing something, we need to think of our future, and get these bullish tactics cut out.
Lets get this round to many offices as possible.
We need RM to listen to us and the managers, I think the managers are under immense pressure as well as us, we need to get it further than our DOMs .
Lets go for it Starting 4th October..
Simple.
