Biking back from my round

[tinydancer]

inside the box of your RM issue helmet were the accesories. They including the visor, a warm covering for your helmet for cold days (just makes your head sweat!) and a nylon rain cover which fits over the helmet, visor and all. i also wear glasses and the rain is serious agro but the covering does help somewhat.
I've heard they can take a disciplinary on you for going without one while cycling on duty so tread caefully IWW. Best of luck!

[IWW Fellow Worker]

inside the box of your RM issue helmet were the accesories. They including the visor, a warm covering for your helmet for cold days (just makes your head sweat!) and a nylon rain cover which fits over the helmet, visor and all. i also wear glasses and the rain is serious agro but the covering does help somewhat.
I've heard they can take a disciplinary on you for going without one while cycling on duty so tread caefully IWW. Best of luck!

Cheers mate. I found the visor is quite useless for keeping the rain of, but that little fleece skullcap was handy. The last helmet I was issued with didn't have one of those though. The nylon rain cover was too small and just kept on popping off. The helmet got wet when I left it on the bike. I've found a baseball cap worn under the helmet is a good thing. As for this jumped up gimp trying to make an issue of it, he knows I always wear a helmet because he's seen me out on the bike often enough. I know he will lie, but the area rep has offered to take my appeal and he knows this goon from years ago and just how unscrupulous he is. We've also had words in the past because of comments he has made about the inhabitants of the city I come from. He has tried to stop me having a travelling day for my annual leave and hasn't asked me to do overtime since December when he keeps asking the same four people. Whatever the outcome, we'll mark his card for him.

[norbet colon]

I have heard before that it is a disiplinary offence if you do not wear a helmet on your cycle. This obviously refers to RM Cycles but if you were to use your own private cycle whilst on duty, I would assume the same measures would exist. Not sure though.

However, having said that, if you are cycling at the busy time of day (Usually when deliverys are) you are wise to wear a helmet anyway, the consequences of having an accident without a helmet on are not worth thinking about. A Helmet could save your life.
http://www.brake.org.uk/index.php?p=489

there was unofficial action at Wythenshaw according to the voice , after a postiebird got sacked for not having a helmet on, then there was all these letters about someone being conductcoded a while back. :lfo

[IWW Fellow Worker]

I do remember someone being sacked for not wearing their helmet, but as I recall, they refused to wear it and made a point of doing so. Royal Mail and the CWU were delighted this had happened and issued joint statements to that effect.

[norbet colon]

I do remember someone being sacked for not wearing their helmet, but as I recall, they refused to wear it and made a point of doing so. Royal Mail and the CWU were delighted this had happened and issued joint statements to that effect.

would you go on a motorbike without a helmet ? he must love you! if you said anything un pc they would have a witchhunt to superficially impress all those toy town liberals , or he'd twist everything that YOU had been abusive & aggressive , with them it's only banter and if he's walking away it's NOT harassment as he hadn't looked at you so you can't prove it - what a load of ********! :lfo

[IWW Fellow Worker]

I do remember someone being sacked for not wearing their helmet, but as I recall, they refused to wear it and made a point of doing so. Royal Mail and the CWU were delighted this had happened and issued joint statements to that effect.

would you go on a motorbike without a helmet ? he must love you! if you said anything un pc they would have a witchhunt to superficially impress all those toy town liberals , or he'd twist everything that YOU had been abusive & aggressive , with them it's only banter and if he's walking away it's NOT harassment as he hadn't looked at you so you can't prove it - what a load of ********! :lfo

I'm just waiting for the appeal mate. I've got nothing to say to the screw. His mind was made up to issue an award the second he saw me without the helmet. He knows I always wear it because he's seen me often enough when he's out in a van. I'll just sit there and let him go on and on and just give him the 'name, rank and serial number' while he plays at being a manager.

[dvbuk55]

The thing is I don't use a bike on my round.. I have a barrow. So I'll stick my own bike in the van before we leave and I'll wear a high vis when I bike back.

..I'll try and get a helmet, but does that matter if I'm riding my own bike?

There are three issues here - of course you should wear a helmet for personal safety, secondly I wouldn't want to be travelling in a van with an unsecured cycle. Only vans fitted with sliding restraints should be used. In the event of an accident the cycle could become a very hard missile. In the same way that a vehicle is checked for MOT, insurance et seq, then a private bike should be checked for safety reasons and I am sure there is rule about private bikes on delivery.

Of course you must be very fast or your delivery may need a little extra to equalise the finishing times - it's not a race.

[heapsy]

I have heard before that it is a disiplinary offence if you do not wear a helmet on your cycle. This obviously refers to RM Cycles but if you were to use your own private cycle whilst on duty, I would assume the same measures would exist. Not sure though.

However, having said that, if you are cycling at the busy time of day (Usually when deliverys are) you are wise to wear a helmet anyway, the consequences of having an accident without a helmet on are not worth thinking about. A Helmet could save your life.
http://www.brake.org.uk/index.php?p=489

there was unofficial action at Wythenshaw according to the voice , after a postiebird got sacked for not having a helmet on, then there was all these letters about someone being conductcoded a while back. :lfo

Yes I remember that. Wythenshawe office is a few miles away, and our territories share a common border.Not sure, but think she got her job back in the end.

[fedup postie]

Yes she did...
http://www.bikebiz.co.uk/news/22482/Pos ... reinstated

[TrueBlueTerrier]

IWW will like this bit

[quote]“Cycle helmets used on the public highway are specifically excluded from the Personal Protective Equipment (PPE) at work regulations. This means that it would be very hard for an employer to force an employee to wear a cycle helmet on health and safety grounds. HSE has no remit to dictate the uniform policy of a company unless it falls within the scope of PPE. Ultimately, the wearing of cycle helmets is a matter of individual choice, any stance to the contrary could potentially be challenged on human rights grounds. With regards to the use of cycle helmets on the public roads by members of the public, this is a policy area that falls totally within the remit of the Department for Transport.â€

[heapsy]

Yes she did...
http://www.bikebiz.co.uk/news/22482/Pos ... reinstated

Thanks for that mate. Its a contentious subject, I remember reading in either Voice, or The Courier about 1 of our colleagues down in Bournemouth or somewhere near, who was killed when they were knocked off the bike because someone opened the car door. The specialist, I remember, said that although they offer some protection, if you travelling at any decent speed, they are unlikely to be of much help. Personally, I do wear mine, but find them VERY hot this time of year.

[IWW Fellow Worker]

[quote="TrueBlueTerrier"]IWW will like this bit

[quote]“Cycle helmets used on the public highway are specifically excluded from the Personal Protective Equipment (PPE) at work regulations. This means that it would be very hard for an employer to force an employee to wear a cycle helmet on health and safety grounds. HSE has no remit to dictate the uniform policy of a company unless it falls within the scope of PPE. Ultimately, the wearing of cycle helmets is a matter of individual choice, any stance to the contrary could potentially be challenged on human rights grounds. With regards to the use of cycle helmets on the public roads by members of the public, this is a policy area that falls totally within the remit of the Department for Transport.â€

[nelson]

[quote] TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
IWW will like this bit

Quote:
“Cycle helmets used on the public highway are specifically excluded from the Personal Protective Equipment (PPE) at work regulations. This means that it would be very hard for an employer to force an employee to wear a cycle helmet on health and safety grounds. HSE has no remit to dictate the uniform policy of a company unless it falls within the scope of PPE. Ultimately, the wearing of cycle helmets is a matter of individual choice, any stance to the contrary could potentially be challenged on human rights grounds. With regards to the use of cycle helmets on the public roads by members of the public, this is a policy area that falls totally within the remit of the Department for Transport.â€

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Found something of relevance on this thread on CWU website

http://www.cwu.org.uk/uploads/documents ... 20wear.pdf

[IWW Fellow Worker]

Found something of relevance on this thread on CWU website

http://www.cwu.org.uk/uploads/documents ... 20wear.pdf

But they seem to have had a change of heart a few months later when they supported a postwoman in Manchester who was sacked for refusing to wear her helmet and won her job back.