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Re: sorting packets into red sleeves

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DGP1 wrote:
baldrick wrote:
DGP1 wrote:
I was still sorting about 3-4 times faster than most
people in that work area
Or about 1/2 the speed of DO staff :wink: :nervous :nervous
You don't know how fast I can sort! :nana
I know it's not as fast as the dancing banana :chuckle :chuckle
Ok, well I'd had a drink or two when I posted that,
but most of the former PHG sorters in my MC do sort faster.
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Re: sorting packets into red sleeves

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baldrick wrote:I'm not on sorting packets much these days. I'm not boasting, but I think I'm a quite fast sorter,
and I think most of the managers I've worked with would agree with that. I've never had any problems
with most of the managers I've worked with in almost 30 years. But I was talking with someone on my
frame and did wave my right hand about, to emphasise something I was saying, and a manager (not a
regular one on that work area) came running over to shout at me to 'SORT!'.
To be honest I was totally shocked by his attitude. I was still sorting about 3-4 times faster than most
people in that work area. On reflection I think i should have 'pannelled out' and if something like that
happens again I probably will.
Perhaps you should consider doing that too.
b][/b]You do get that from certain managers, especially the acting fraternity. See them back in uniform and lo and behold they conduct themselves like the deadweights they are anyway. Just put it down to experience.
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Re: sorting packets into red sleeves

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bobbyden wrote:
baldrick wrote:I'm not on sorting packets much these days. I'm not boasting, but I think I'm a quite fast sorter,
and I think most of the managers I've worked with would agree with that. I've never had any problems
with most of the managers I've worked with in almost 30 years. But I was talking with someone on my
frame and did wave my right hand about, to emphasise something I was saying, and a manager (not a
regular one on that work area) came running over to shout at me to 'SORT!'.
To be honest I was totally shocked by his attitude. I was still sorting about 3-4 times faster than most
people in that work area. On reflection I think i should have 'pannelled out' and if something like that
happens again I probably will.
Perhaps you should consider doing that too.
b][/b]You do get that from certain managers, especially the acting fraternity. See them back in uniform and lo and behold they conduct themselves like the deadweights they are anyway. Just put it down to experience.
Yeah it's usually the acting or new ones that behave like that. But this was a long time (but @sslicking) one.

and welcome to rmc bobbyden. :wave
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Re: sorting packets into red sleeves

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Along the same lines, what does everyone think about this new method of sorting packets straight into red sleeves? Will it save time or will it just be a great big hassle?

Tying up bags and lugging them over to a York is a pain. But at least in the MC where I work, I think we're going to run out of red sleeves pretty quickly.
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Re: sorting packets into red sleeves

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britwrit wrote:Along the same lines, what does everyone think about this new method of sorting packets straight into red sleeves? Will it save time or will it just be a great big hassle?

Tying up bags and lugging them over to a York is a pain. But at least in the MC where I work, I think we're going to run out of red sleeves pretty quickly.
Has been trialed at my MC,several methods have been tried over about a year,and the one used now seems the best.Tried it a few times,easy enough,and no continual bag tying! :cuppa
same as it ever was...
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Re: sorting packets into red sleeves

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POSTMAN wrote:wot you up to youwot!!!!! ??
what do you mean postman?
who the hell invests £2 billion into a servic and makes it worse?????????????
you really couldn't make it up!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: sorting packets into red sleeves

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youwot!!!!! wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:wot you up to youwot!!!!! ??
what do you mean postman?
Blimey that was ages ago,i think you was up to something,can't rem what it was now.
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Re: sorting packets into red sleeves

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britwrit wrote:Along the same lines, what does everyone think about this new method of sorting packets straight into red sleeves? Will it save time or will it just be a great big hassle?

Tying up bags and lugging them over to a York is a pain. But at least in the MC where I work, I think we're going to run out of red sleeves pretty quickly.
Sleeves take up a lot more room than DBFs, could be a problem for smaller MCs? (assuming there are any non-super MCs left after the cull)

Sleeves are not currently a national product so if you run short you run short. When it becomes national then the usual kit distribution systems will in theory make sure each MC has enough. Of course this in actual fact means cardboard sleeves will be used.

No doubt someone figures that going to sleeves means no need to buy new bags.
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Re: sorting packets into red sleeves

Post by SpacePhoenix »

adb2aber wrote:
britwrit wrote:Along the same lines, what does everyone think about this new method of sorting packets straight into red sleeves? Will it save time or will it just be a great big hassle?

Tying up bags and lugging them over to a York is a pain. But at least in the MC where I work, I think we're going to run out of red sleeves pretty quickly.
Sleeves take up a lot more room than DBFs, could be a problem for smaller MCs? (assuming there are any non-super MCs left after the cull)

Sleeves are not currently a national product so if you run short you run short. When it becomes national then the usual kit distribution systems will in theory make sure each MC has enough. Of course this in actual fact means cardboard sleeves will be used.

No doubt someone figures that going to sleeves means no need to buy new bags.
I don't think it will take many weeks for the MC where I work to run out of sleeves as well. We've had a couple of nights recently when we've run low on yorks. They still have to buy bags as some stuff still has to go in bags still:

[*]stuff going via the air network
[*]stuff going to to Heathrow MC
[*]Stuff going to MCs which don't have a lot
[*]Tracked items going outward

I think that sooner or later it's going to be a case of sending cardboard sleeves through the network as it wouldn't surprise me if MCs start to scrap dbf frames that they no longer need.
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Re: sorting packets into red sleeves

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samf wrote:im sure many of you like myself have sorted packets into red sleeves. correct? im sure many of you like me have been told from time to time to"GET A MOVE ON" correct? pretty fair when your chattin too much or havin a laugh. agreed? but have any of you ever been told by a manager SORRY supervisor that you are "throwing them wrong"?????? interesting to see what any union reps or ppl who sort packets all the time have to say on this. my target is 20 replies so get crackin
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Re: sorting packets into red sleeves

Post by BRAVEHEART09 »

Problem in our MC is the amount of staff that they sometimes put in the bullrings totally congesting it :arrrghhh
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Re: sorting packets into red sleeves

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BRAVEHEART09 wrote:Problem in our MC is the amount of staff that they sometimes put in the bullrings totally congesting it :arrrghhh
Now aren't you the lucky one!! In the mail centre I am based, it is the lack of personnel which is the problem. There is quite alot expected of packet sorters these days. They limit the numbers to meet the targets in respect of throughput. All in all, the packets area, as with other sections in a mail centre have become very difficult to work in. The only people who look relaxed are the managers, counting their bonus payments for meeting the targets.

Packets have been one of the big growth areas in recent times, purely because of internet transactions. In 2009, it rose by 23% and Mondays in particular will be increasingly busy as a consequence of this, especially in the run-up to Christmas. We need to see more consistant staffing arrangements. That is the common sense approach, something though completely alien to the management.
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Re: sorting packets into red sleeves

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baldrick wrote:
bobbyden wrote:
baldrick wrote:I'm not on sorting packets much these days. I'm not boasting, but I think I'm a quite fast sorter,
and I think most of the managers I've worked with would agree with that. I've never had any problems
with most of the managers I've worked with in almost 30 years. But I was talking with someone on my
frame and did wave my right hand about, to emphasise something I was saying, and a manager (not a
regular one on that work area) came running over to shout at me to 'SORT!'.
To be honest I was totally shocked by his attitude. I was still sorting about 3-4 times faster than most
people in that work area. On reflection I think i should have 'pannelled out' and if something like that
happens again I probably will.
Perhaps you should consider doing that too.
b][/b]You do get that from certain managers, especially the acting fraternity. See them back in uniform and lo and behold they conduct themselves like the deadweights they are anyway. Just put it down to experience.
Yeah it's usually the acting or new ones that behave like that. But this was a long time (but @sslicking) one.

and welcome to rmc bobbyden. :wave

I apologise for not replying to your kind welcome earlier Baldrick. I take a good deal of interest in all the topics on rmc. I find it gives me a really informative overview of the Royal Mail in general. Therefore, quite a period of time is lapsed before I revisit a particular thread.

Regards

Bobbyden
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Re: sorting packets into red sleeves

Post by BRAVEHEART09 »

You picked me up wrong bobbyden yes there is too many people in the bullrings sometimes but that is only when it is close to despatch time and the proverbial manure has hit the fan :crazy:
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Re: sorting packets into red sleeves

Post by Dionysus »

The bagless network operation is about to hit our mc very soon, so just a few questions for those who already have it place.
I know what the national guidelines state but how many yorks do you have per bullring and what amount of staff do you use during normal and peak times?
Cheers.