Cant get this out my system.

[TeeferTiger]

And you know this, how?!

Did you really ask that April?
Close your eyes for the next 10mins...OK bring it on boys.

Unfortunately, yes

[DGP1]

And you know this, how?!

Did you really ask that April?
Close your eyes for the next 10mins...OK bring it on boys.

Unfortunately, yes

I refuse to answer that on the grounds I may incrimiate myself

[dvbuk55]

Not every office is the same. Rural offices don't really have much choice in staffing levels due to the size and distance from the MC.

And don't call me Shirley

Please, there's no harm in a little role playing............................surely

Don't you start!!

You can't object to a little repartee.......................sur, can you?

Well, you only have a little one

And you know this, how?!

Surely you have a webcam - it's much better than those low grade adult videos

[POSTMAN]

We've got WSM now and were told that the 4 day weeks (10 hour days) would mean deliveries of 5.5-6hrs, F*ck that, i'm not delivering in the dark on the poxy sink estates we deliver to!

Who told you that!

[dvbuk55]

We've got WSM now and were told that the 4 day weeks (10 hour days) would mean deliveries of 5.5-6hrs, F*ck that, i'm not delivering in the dark on the poxy sink estates we deliver to!

Who told you that!

Well I would have thought it's been said often enough that outdoor work would have to replace indoor work and the only outdoor work is delivery - unless of course you have a broom and an orifice availlable as well.

Seriously though longer deliveries are inevitable and the union has taken away the fixed delivery span as an enabler - enabling you to remain on full time hours, possibly a 4 day week BUT there is a price to pay. There may be 4 day weeks availalble but I seriously doubt they will be full time.

[fishtank]

Well they WANT 4.5hr deliveries on an 8hr15min day in my place so i don't see why they woudn't want a 5.5-6hr delivery on a 10hr day.
What they want and what they can have are two different things though.

[shimmyrule]

We've got WSM now and were told that the 4 day weeks (10 hour days) would mean deliveries of 5.5-6hrs, F*ck that, i'm not delivering in the dark on the poxy sink estates we deliver to!

Who told you that!

exactly the same here, 5 and half hour deliveries onn the 10 hour day!

[TeeferTiger]

We've got WSM now and were told that the 4 day weeks (10 hour days) would mean deliveries of 5.5-6hrs, F*ck that, i'm not delivering in the dark on the poxy sink estates we deliver to!

Who told you that!

exactly the same here, 5 and half hour deliveries onn the 10 hour day!

I hope that's with vans and not walking...

[dvbuk55]

We've got WSM now and were told that the 4 day weeks (10 hour days) would mean deliveries of 5.5-6hrs, F*ck that, i'm not delivering in the dark on the poxy sink estates we deliver to!

Who told you that!

exactly the same here, 5 and half hour deliveries onn the 10 hour day!

I hope that's with vans and not walking...

Our CDVs already do a 4 hour 35 delivery on an 8 hour day, which will inevitably increase. The new move appears to be 1 FT and 1 PT the FT prepares both deliveries and that would keep the delivery time down BUT its having the hours available in the right proportion to do that - we aren't at that stage yet it's just talk and really that's as far as it goes at the moment. Many people here are ready for change but my advice is always don't be too eager to agree anything yet just so you can have a repick, wait it out and there may be concessions as the deadline approaches.

[POSTMAN]

You wont get 5.5hr-6hrs out side work on a 10hr day ffs it's impossible.
I would say 4-5 is doable in the hrs worked,whether you could actually 'do it' is another thing.

[DGP1]

You wont get 5.5hr-6hrs out side work on a 10hr day ffs it's impossible.
I would say 4-5 is doable in the hrs worked,whether you could actually 'do it' is another thing.

5-6 hours on a 8 hour day which needless to say fails everyday

[dvbuk55]

You wont get 5.5hr-6hrs out side work on a 10hr day ffs it's impossible.
I would say 4-5 is doable in the hrs worked,whether you could actually 'do it' is another thing.

Well I am sure that is your measured opinion pmn but what you need to do is find enough MEASURABLE INDOOR work to keep you occupied for four hours. I mentioned quite a while ago that the delivery times would increase proportionate to the hours worked. If you do have to perform a longer delivery then you need to make sure that it IS possible and not some figment of geo routes imagination.

[fishtank]

You wont get 5.5hr-6hrs out side work on a 10hr day ffs it's impossible.
I would say 4-5 is doable in the hrs worked,whether you could actually 'do it' is another thing.

Another thread to bookmark and revisit at a later date.

[krussel]

You wont get 5.5hr-6hrs out side work on a 10hr day ffs it's impossible.
I would say 4-5 is doable in the hrs worked,whether you could actually 'do it' is another thing.

Ive been doing 5 hours out the office delivery all this week on a 8 hr day and it a killer. I do use a van so its broken down into half bags but as mine is not rural its still the same amount of walking involved.

[OnAFlyer]

We've got WSM now and were told that the 4 day weeks (10 hour days) would mean deliveries of 5.5-6hrs, F*ck that, i'm not delivering in the dark on the poxy sink estates we deliver to!

Who told you that!

Planners and the CWU rep. 5.5hrs delivery + break + 30 mins to check van and travel to the walks still leave 3hrs+ indoor time. Tbh providing the walk spans were accurate then I can't see a reason why 5.15 in a 10 hr day isn't do-able - we have turned it down though because nobody wants to be walking that long when it's pissing it down or boiling hot.

And two 5.15 walks when you get hit with council mags, bills and hundreds of light bulbs doesn't bear thinking about.

Has your office got WS machines yet? If not wait for the cuts to start once you do, the hours they claim it saves means the times given for indoor work are cut way down. All our temp FT staff have already been dropped to 25hrs a week with 9am starts.