Underpaid

[taurus88]

Hi, I'm short of five hours of overtime from last week.

I know it'll probably be my fault because I didn't book it, but seeing as I don't even know which book corresponds to which walk, I fail to see why it's my responsibility to book it. More to the point, how do I go about claiming these hours due to me as well as proving I worked said overtime (half-walks)?

I've also done 12.5 hours overtime so far this week and know I haven't booked that either. I have enough things to concern myself with.

[wiganpostie]

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "don't even know which book corresponds to which walk". Have you booked overtime before, at all? You need to enter your overtime on a docket - it's an A4-sized sheet, with a grid upon which you enter your duty number and the hours of overtime you expect to be working that day. I've described it in detail as chances are you haven't seen one before, as the relationship between a docket and a lino is somewhat similar to that between a hermit crab and a shell. Anyway, never thrust a lino to book overtime for you, they'll conveniently 'forget', and you'll be out of pocket. I wouldn't let it lie, however. Kick up a stink and refuse to work o/t from now on unless what's owed to you is paid.

[clashcityrocker]

We don't have overtime dockets anymore.
You have to tell them your o/t and hope they are listening.

[DGP1]

We don't have overtime dockets anymore.
You have to tell them your o/t and hope they are listening.

Same as my office..............which is why I don't bother anymore

[krussel]

At my office it works like this.

If you have covered a walk which was put up for overtime, ie: sickness etc, then no probs as you sign your name on a form which has been prepared in advance.

Problems start if its un-forseen such as extended delivery as you shold tell your dom beforehand. So you go to your dom tell them you worked over and get them to agree the overtime (not always easy). However ive found that its easier to write it down on the presssure overtime sheet, then tell the person doing the balance what you have worked and then let them tell the dom . Normally they pay up if its written on the sheet, If not then its up to your dom to challenge it, then the fun begins.

Trouble is its diff in every office so there is no correct way of claiming overtime.

[taurus88]

We have the overtime sheets with the signatures, but there's four or five of them covering all different kinds of walk and I don't know which one each walk goes on, nor do I know how to properly fill one in. It's very easy to tell someone to 'book their overtime' but I've never worked in a company where you book your own overtime, and any oversights I would expect to be corrected seeing as the managers ought to know who covered what walk on what day. I personally keep a record of my overtime, but I expect managers to go to some effort to ensure that overtime is booked when they're always so keen to get people to cover in the morning. I myself have a lot of things to concern myself with at work and booking overtime tends to slip to the very back of my mind. Which leads to situations like this where I'm a good ten hours short of what I'm owed with little chance of gaining it back - due to shoddy management, shoddy systems, and downright ridiculous handling of uncovered walks.

I'll tell a manager tomorrow about what happened and that's it. I think I'll avoid overtime in future though as it's more of a nuisance than anything.

[krussel]

We have the overtime sheets with the signatures, but there's four or five of them covering all different kinds of walk and I don't know which one each walk goes on, nor do I know how to properly fill one in. It's very easy to tell someone to 'book their overtime' but I've never worked in a company where you book your own overtime, and any oversights I would expect to be corrected seeing as the managers ought to know who covered what walk on what day. I personally keep a record of my overtime, but I expect managers to go to some effort to ensure that overtime is booked when they're always so keen to get people to cover in the morning. I myself have a lot of things to concern myself with at work and booking overtime tends to slip to the very back of my mind. Which leads to situations like this where I'm a good ten hours short of what I'm owed with little chance of gaining it back - due to shoddy management, shoddy systems, and downright ridiculous handling of uncovered walks.

I'll tell a manager tomorrow about what happened and that's it. I think I'll avoid overtime in future though as it's more of a nuisance than anything.

Sounds a bit of a mare

Find out the postie (prob ex phg) who does the balance of staff and become his or her friend It will make booking OT a whole lot easier as you can go to them direct and let them know before you tell a manager. In fairness you will need to keep your manager informed as they have to sign it off.

[wiganpostie]

Ask your lino for the appropriate docket and book your o/t before you go out on delivery if you think you are going to go over your time. If he/she is asking you to come in early, ask for the docket as soon as you walk through the door in the morning. ]

One other little tip - if you are booking, say, an average of an hour's overtime each day over the course of a week, vary the amount that you book to a small degree, for example add or subtract a couple of minutes such that each day has a unique amount of o/t, so that if they only pay you for four out of the five days you can give them a definitive answer as to on what day you weren't paid overtime.

[gb93]

We have the overtime sheets with the signatures, but there's four or five of them covering all different kinds of walk and I don't know which one each walk goes on, nor do I know how to properly fill one in. It's very easy to tell someone to 'book their overtime' but I've never worked in a company where you book your own overtime, and any oversights I would expect to be corrected seeing as the managers ought to know who covered what walk on what day. I personally keep a record of my overtime, but I expect managers to go to some effort to ensure that overtime is booked when they're always so keen to get people to cover in the morning. I myself have a lot of things to concern myself with at work and booking overtime tends to slip to the very back of my mind. Which leads to situations like this where I'm a good ten hours short of what I'm owed with little chance of gaining it back - due to shoddy management, shoddy systems, and downright ridiculous handling of uncovered walks.

I'll tell a manager tomorrow about what happened and that's it. I think I'll avoid overtime in future though as it's more of a nuisance than anything.

Ask your workplace coach or union rep to show you how to fill the overtime docket in.
If you don't know who these are ask the Dom to introduce you to them.
Should of already been done

[hantsman]

We have the overtime sheets with the signatures, but there's four or five of them covering all different kinds of walk and I don't know which one each walk goes on, nor do I know how to properly fill one in. It's very easy to tell someone to 'book their overtime' but I've never worked in a company where you book your own overtime, and any oversights I would expect to be corrected seeing as the managers ought to know who covered what walk on what day. I personally keep a record of my overtime, but I expect managers to go to some effort to ensure that overtime is booked when they're always so keen to get people to cover in the morning. I myself have a lot of things to concern myself with at work and booking overtime tends to slip to the very back of my mind. Which leads to situations like this where I'm a good ten hours short of what I'm owed with little chance of gaining it back - due to shoddy management, shoddy systems, and downright ridiculous handling of uncovered walks.

I'll tell a manager tomorrow about what happened and that's it. I think I'll avoid overtime in future though as it's more of a nuisance than anything.

Yep best to avoid overtime unless you want it or need it. RM managers are actually defrauding staff by removing O/T , this happens in most offices in the country IMHO

[kimski1976]

most managers have been told to cut down on OT. and make it harder for people to claim. the managers are under pressure to cut the hours. thats why if you tell them you need an hour, they wont book it in for you. this system has been in place in our office for 2 weeks. what happens is if you are booking in over time for your walk, or for working your day off, or for taking more from another walk, then you go into the office where the computer is. you then tell the DOM support and you tell them you think you are going over on your walk, or taking extra out. if its your day off they would of put this in already. you tell them roughly how much you will be booking in. you leave the room, and deliver your mail plus any extra you took. after you finish your walk, you go to the post office and drop any 739s off. or go back to the office or drop any 739s off, or take your van back to the office or MC. after this has been completed, you look at the time. and thats your finishing time. the DOM support will print off the docket in the morning. when you go to work the next day you go to the office, ask for the docket, and put your time in. also make sure you write it in your calender. put only what you have done. do not put more, or less. if you finished 21.5 minutes over, just put 20 mins in. if you finished 59 mins over, put 60 mins in. simple. always record in your diary or calender what you have done extra. luckily in our office we only need to tell them twice to get our owed wages.

[Terry Butcher]

Me: "Boss, i went over by an hour yesterday, and looking at the mail now it will be at least the same today, can you put me down for 2 hours?"

Lino: "Err...yeaaahh...no problem, I'll sort it out for you, don't worry about it!

Thursday, Payslip arrives, open it: Basic pay, door to door...that's it. Where the **** is my overtime?!

It's all too familiar, on the rare occasion i agree to overtime now i make damn sure i put pen to paper on the proper sheet before i leave the office. Don't agree to do any overtime unless you have signed the sheet, the Lino's word means nothing. Hardly surprising.

[suz67]

ask your dom for the 552,make sure he puts down the agreed o/t,and make sure you sign it !!!!!

[fishtank]

ask your dom for the 552,make sure he puts down the agreed o/t,and make sure you sign it !!!!!

If he doesn't pay tell him you'll be round his house with the kids on Sunday for your tea...it's only fair if he's leaving you short.

[POSTMAN]

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