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walk sequencing pressures

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bamfordsnr
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walk sequencing pressures

Post by bamfordsnr »

I am a Walk sequence machine operator and so far only done the job Five weeks and been put under extreme pressure to attain maximum speed within one week................is anyone having the same pressures put on them??? I thought we had a THREE MONTH period to SUSS the job!! We are all asked to do extra shifts in our office .........Is this normal elswhere?? Also we have to do half a duty of a round as part of our contractual hours on a Saturday morning. Can anyone match this??? :arrrghhh :arrrghhh :arrrghhh
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We too are suffering from pressures to hit `targets` !! 4 or 5 of us are having problems with our arms, as we`re left on the machines for the full 10 hour shifts. Non of the two hours on two hours off, has ever been implemented. Things should get interesting shortly, although we`ve never been made to do walks....yet. We have been asked to do them voluntarily tho !!!!
Again, the Union have messed up big style, by not having a uniform approach to the running of the CSS machines.
We were asked to start doing the job in a way that was whooly unnacceptable on H&S grounds. Apparently our figures were not as good as one particular office. It was subsequently found out that this particular office were employing dangerous practices to achieve their results, and RM were happy for them to continue.

Another Royal Mail fiasco !!!
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Well it seems strange that you two are having problems - apparently there aren't any :angel :whistle
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AnnexeB wrote:We too are suffering from pressures to hit `targets` !! 4 or 5 of us are having problems with our arms, as we`re left on the machines for the full 10 hour shifts. Non of the two hours on two hours off, has ever been implemented. Things should get interesting shortly, although we`ve never been made to do walks....yet. We have been asked to do them voluntarily tho !!!!
Again, the Union have messed up big style, by not having a uniform approach to the running of the CSS machines.
We were asked to start doing the job in a way that was whooly unnacceptable on H&S grounds. Apparently our figures were not as good as one particular office. It was subsequently found out that this particular office were employing dangerous practices to achieve their results, and RM were happy for them to continue.

Another Royal Mail fiasco !!!
can't expect anything else from this management they don't know any better (if you continually recruit managers from wihin you will keep getting the same s**t :no no eh! we 've always done things our way) :arrrghhh , S S D D.......same s**t different day }been like that for donkeys years and it ain't gonna change anytime soon .we're going to have to stand up to them and their unsafe practices,don't let them away it cos they will keep pushing for more and more :no no
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bamfordsnr wrote:I am a Walk sequence machine operator and so far only done the job Five weeks and been put under extreme pressure to attain maximum speed within one week................is anyone having the same pressures put on them??? I thought we had a THREE MONTH period to SUSS the job!! We are all asked to do extra shifts in our office .........Is this normal elswhere?? Also we have to do half a duty of a round as part of our contractual hours on a Saturday morning. Can anyone match this??? :arrrghhh :arrrghhh :arrrghhh
You must be fairly new to Royal Mail.
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We are all thought of by RM management, as something they walked in, nothing more, nothing less. :evil/mad
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Re: walk sequencing pressures

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My local delivery postman reckons the work he is receiving from the walk sequencing machine is crap .He is from the E5 and E10 post code area and gets ton's of missorts for Leicester, Ilford, and large parts of kent. His manager reckons its teething troubles,yes,just like that white elephant they call HWDC at Langley.
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barbario wrote:My local delivery postman reckons the work he is receiving from the walk sequencing machine is crap .He is from the E5 and E10 post code area and gets ton's of missorts for Leicester, Ilford, and large parts of kent. His manager reckons its teething troubles,yes,just like that white elephant they call HWDC at Langley.
My guess is that the batch that the machine run already had the missorts in, do you know what type of machine is doing the sorting before the CSS machine (IMP, LSM or iLSM)?
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SpacePhoenix wrote:
barbario wrote:My local delivery postman reckons the work he is receiving from the walk sequencing machine is crap .He is from the E5 and E10 post code area and gets ton's of missorts for Leicester, Ilford, and large parts of kent. His manager reckons its teething troubles,yes,just like that white elephant they call HWDC at Langley.
My guess is that the batch that the machine run already had the missorts in, do you know what type of machine is doing the sorting before the CSS machine (IMP, LSM or iLSM)?
We where told that the sequencer would reject the whole batch if there was any mistakes.................your not telling me that RM managers lie :hmmmm :chuckle :chuckle
Our walk sequence mail is terrible with at least a quarter of it not even sequenced :hmmmm
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Post by dvbuk55 »

DGP1 wrote:
SpacePhoenix wrote:
barbario wrote:My local delivery postman reckons the work he is receiving from the walk sequencing machine is crap .He is from the E5 and E10 post code area and gets ton's of missorts for Leicester, Ilford, and large parts of kent. His manager reckons its teething troubles,yes,just like that white elephant they call HWDC at Langley.
My guess is that the batch that the machine run already had the missorts in, do you know what type of machine is doing the sorting before the CSS machine (IMP, LSM or iLSM)?
We where told that the sequencer would reject the whole batch if there was any mistakes.................your not telling me that RM managers lie :hmmmm :chuckle :chuckle
Our walk sequence mail is terrible with at least a quarter of it not even sequenced :hmmmm
Stop whingeing - it cost millions and has been paid for so we have to use it and it will save you 10 minutes on prep and it will only take you 15 minutes longer to see to the missorts - god there's no pleasing some people, don't you realise how much talking has gone on to organise this - you ingrate :d'oh!
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AnnexeB wrote:We were asked to start doing the job in a way that was whooly unnacceptable on H&S grounds. Apparently our figures were not as good as one particular office. It was subsequently found out that this particular office were employing dangerous practices to achieve their results, and RM were happy for them to continue.

Another Royal Mail fiasco !!!
of course they are....until something goes wrong, then it will be their fault.
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AnnexeB wrote:We too are suffering from pressures to hit `targets` !! 4 or 5 of us are having problems with our arms, as we`re left on the machines for the full 10 hour shifts. Non of the two hours on two hours off, has ever been implemented. Things should get interesting shortly, although we`ve never been made to do walks....yet. We have been asked to do them voluntarily tho !!!!
Again, the Union have messed up big style, by not having a uniform approach to the running of the CSS machines.
We were asked to start doing the job in a way that was whooly unnacceptable on H&S grounds. Apparently our figures were not as good as one particular office. It was subsequently found out that this particular office were employing dangerous practices to achieve their results, and RM were happy for them to continue.

Another Royal Mail fiasco !!!
What has your H&S Rep said about this?
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Big Daz
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Post by Big Daz »

10 mins :hmmmm


I must be well slow on sorting non sequenced mail into my frame, my personal experience of sequenced mail is that it saves me as a individual more than 10 mins and as not all walksorted mail was sequenced when my D.O particpated in a trial then when we get WS mail permantley (early 2012) the time saving will increase.
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Re: walk sequencing pressures

Post by Tman »

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He is from the E5 and E10 post code area and gets ton's of missorts for Leicester, Ilford, and large parts of kent.
And-
We where told that the sequencer would reject the whole batch if there was any mistakes.
And-
Our walk sequence mail is terrible with at least a quarter of it not even sequenced :hmmmm
So, a manager somewhere doesn't know what he's talking about, some operator has been feeding a machine with outward mail :roll: and someone else has been mixing sequenced and unsequenced mail....

But it's the CSS's fault? Things don't change, I see....... :neutral:
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Re: walk sequencing pressures

Post by hubbahubba »

Tman wrote:.
He is from the E5 and E10 post code area and gets ton's of missorts for Leicester, Ilford, and large parts of kent.
And-
We where told that the sequencer would reject the whole batch if there was any mistakes.
And-
Our walk sequence mail is terrible with at least a quarter of it not even sequenced :hmmmm
So, a manager somewhere doesn't know what he's talking about, some operator has been feeding a machine with outward mail :roll: and someone else has been mixing sequenced and unsequenced mail....

But it's the CSS's fault? Things don't change, I see....... :neutral:

Nope,but it was probably presorted on an IMP,which as anyone who has run for more than a few hours could tell you,missorts plenty of mail by misreading the postcode at an alarming rate,down to the software RM bought from Lockheed Martin many years ago... :hmmmm
same as it ever was...
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Post by POSTMAN »

But it's the CSS's fault? Things don't change, I see.......
There is not a walking postie on here that does not get miss-sorts in their walk sorted bundles/un walksorted trays,they don't get thrown out by the machines,what makes you think that the CSS will throw them out or are working properly.

Miss-sorts ARE the machines fault. :cuppa
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