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Delivery supplement on your day off??

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Re: Delivery supplement on your day off??

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Woof woof, your question was answered in earlier post, answer is no. Its paid by your contracted hours so only get more if your contract goes up
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zx135 wrote:Woof woof, your question was answered in earlier post, answer is no. Its paid by your contracted hours so only get more if your contract goes up
if i cover a duty and claim atd you must also get more allowances
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No you dont , remember you do not recieve night allowance if you work overtime on nights , that went under the way forward. Prior to that you recieve nda on overtime.

Remember the delivery supplement is a permanent addition to basic pay and it does not get paid on overtime.

If an part timer is regually working up to 40 hours then why dont we give that part timer the ability to have a 40 hour contract then he or she will recieve the full allowance. Dont tell me that cannot be done as I have just done 4 local agreements on that basis.
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dingo wrote:No you dont , remember you do not recieve night allowance if you work overtime on nights , that went under the way forward. Prior to that you recieve nda on overtime.

Remember the delivery supplement is a permanent addition to basic pay and it does not get paid on overtime.

If an part timer is regually working up to 40 hours then why dont we give that part timer the ability to have a 40 hour contract then he or she will recieve the full allowance. Dont tell me that cannot be done as I have just done 4 local agreements on that basis.
surely this isnt right if i am claiming adjustment to duty as if i did this working nights or claiming tpm money i would get the full payment same as drivers with there allowances in distribution
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as mentioned in one of the posts driving allowance 6-7 pound what driving allowance no one is entitled to it only if you were a driver before 2000 i am a driver and i dont get it somethin fishy goin on here i think,any union guys out there who can clear this up our ones a nob :Very Happy
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maisymoo04 wrote:as mentioned in one of the posts driving allowance 6-7 pound what driving allowance no one is entitled to it only if you were a driver before 2000 i am a driver and i dont get it somethin fishy goin on here i think,any union guys out there who can clear this up our ones a nob :Very Happy
Blame the Way Forward agreement not your rep. http://www.cwuse5.org.uk/Sections/wayforward.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Driving Allowance
The new package will retain non-pensionable assigned allowances as personal reserved rights for the following employees:

£6.00 per week (pro-rata to conditioned hours) for employees graded PMN/woman, who are not receiving another assigned non-shift allowance, and whose substantive job on 31 January 2000 involves driving a Royal Mail van (of less than 3.5 tonnes) for at least two conditioned hours per day. This will include reserve jobs dedicated to covering driving duties as of 31 January 2000;

£6.00 per week (pro-rata to conditioned hours) for employees graded PMN/woman or Streamline Level 4, who are not receiving another assigned non-shift allowance nor the £6.00 for van driving, and whose substantive job on 31 January 2000 involves driving a fork-lift truck for at least two conditioned hours per day. This will include reserve jobs dedicated to covering fork-lift duties as of 31 January 2000;

These allowances will be frozen and retained on a personal rights basis by these employees only so long as they remain in the same job as on 31 January 2000. There will be no payments for hours worked on overtime or Scheduled Attendance. These assigned allowances will continue to be paid during annual leave and other paid absence. Employees on rotations as of 31 January 2000 will receive an average payment.
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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
maisymoo04 wrote:as mentioned in one of the posts driving allowance 6-7 pound what driving allowance no one is entitled to it only if you were a driver before 2000 i am a driver and i dont get it somethin fishy goin on here i think,any union guys out there who can clear this up our ones a nob :Very Happy
Blame the Way Forward agreement not your rep. http://www.cwuse5.org.uk/Sections/wayforward.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Driving Allowance
The new package will retain non-pensionable assigned allowances as personal reserved rights for the following employees:

£6.00 per week (pro-rata to conditioned hours) for employees graded PMN/woman, who are not receiving another assigned non-shift allowance, and whose substantive job on 31 January 2000 involves driving a Royal Mail van (of less than 3.5 tonnes) for at least two conditioned hours per day. This will include reserve jobs dedicated to covering driving duties as of 31 January 2000;

£6.00 per week (pro-rata to conditioned hours) for employees graded PMN/woman or Streamline Level 4, who are not receiving another assigned non-shift allowance nor the £6.00 for van driving, and whose substantive job on 31 January 2000 involves driving a fork-lift truck for at least two conditioned hours per day. This will include reserve jobs dedicated to covering fork-lift duties as of 31 January 2000;

These allowances will be frozen and retained on a personal rights basis by these employees only so long as they remain in the same job as on 31 January 2000. There will be no payments for hours worked on overtime or Scheduled Attendance. These assigned allowances will continue to be paid during annual leave and other paid absence. Employees on rotations as of 31 January 2000 will receive an average payment.

so does this count
Employees not receiving an assigned allowance who are required to attend ad hoc within conditioned hours on a relevant shift (e.g. as a reserve) will receive a one-off pensionable (or part-pensionable at night) and contributory payment for each attendance. This will be equal to the weekly amount divided by the number of attendances to which they are conditioned for that week (e.g. for a single night shift of a five day week it would be £12.24). Where someone is required to work ad hoc within conditioned hours on a shift attracting a higher payment than their usual job then the additional payment will be based on the difference between the two shift payments.
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ad hoc it could be then

http://www.cwunortheastdivision.org/Ind ... wances.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

7. Ad Hoc payments
Where the appropriate work is performed within conditioned hours on an infrequent or periodic
basis, an equivalent one-off ad hoc payment will be made. This will be calculated as above, by
dividing the weekly rate by the number of attendances to which they are conditioned for that week.
Thus for a 5 day attendance 20% of the weekly allowance would be paid per day subject to a
maximum of the full rate. Payment will be pensionable and contributory, one week in arrears.
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I am guessing that the answer would be NO.

The Adhoc allowances appears to be for the unsociable shift allowances such as the ESA1 and ESA2 and Dawn Allowance and Night Shift ones - With ESA 1 and ESA 2 gone in 2007 it would be only the other shift allowances that would be taken into account if indeed they still pay them.

I don't think the Ad Hoc allowances apply to Driving Allowances because they were protected only for those getting them in 2000 when they eliminated them.

So if you work Ad Hoc shifts for any that currently get a shift allowance I would say yes you should get it paid, but no you can't get Driving Allowance as it is no longer paid, except under reserved rights.
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I wouldn't worry about your allowances too much, the way the CWU is treating the grass-root member, ALL allowances & payments will soon be gone.

And on top of this they will tell you that it is good for you.

Maybe if the upper levels of the CWU had to live on an OPG's wage, they wouldn't be so ready to give up the little amounts of money in allowances & D2D's that makes the difference to a working mans wages

Thanks to the "super deals" that the CWU have managed to strike with RM , I am 2K DOWN in the past 2 years.

Still, we must be greatful
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so if i am part time and cover a full time duty and claim adjusment to duty that week i am not able to claim the full £20.60 for doing the exact same job well aint that discrimination
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Re: Delivery supplement on your day off??

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Surley with a decent basic pay rate there would be no need for extras?
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Big Daz wrote:Surley with a decent basic pay rate there would be no need for extras?
So why is there not a decent wage? We don't negotiate our own pay rises, which have been pitiful for the last few years whilst inflation rages and energy prices have rocketed, what we get is a tightening of the belt and a negotiating body that hasn't made any inroads into pay and conditions for years, at least not in the right direction.
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Cut Off King wrote:I wouldn't worry about your allowances too much, the way the CWU is treating the grass-root member, ALL allowances & payments will soon be gone.

And on top of this they will tell you that it is good for you.

Maybe if the upper levels of the CWU had to live on an OPG's wage, they wouldn't be so ready to give up the little amounts of money in allowances & D2D's that makes the difference to a working mans wages

Thanks to the "super deals" that the CWU have managed to strike with RM , I am 2K DOWN in the past 2 years.

Still, we must be greatful
maybe our top level officials,would like to post detail's of their salary's for last year :hmmmm :cuppa
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Re: Delivery supplement on your day off??

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mucker wrote:
Cut Off King wrote:I wouldn't worry about your allowances too much, the way the CWU is treating the grass-root member, ALL allowances & payments will soon be gone.

And on top of this they will tell you that it is good for you.

Maybe if the upper levels of the CWU had to live on an OPG's wage, they wouldn't be so ready to give up the little amounts of money in allowances & D2D's that makes the difference to a working mans wages

Thanks to the "super deals" that the CWU have managed to strike with RM , I am 2K DOWN in the past 2 years.

Still, we must be greatful
maybe our top level officials,would like to post detail's of their salary's for last year :hmmmm :cuppa
Well they do - it's about 100k - with additional perks - not much different to us really ;liar