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A ROW has erupted after Royal Mail introduced loos for Muslims at one of its biggest centres.

Special “Nile pans” have replaced two normal loos at one of the north’s largest post processing plants.
About half the staff at the Manchester Mail Centre are Asian but most cannot believe anyone asked for the hole-in-the-ground toilets.

Some members of the Asian community are said to prefer squatting and the lavs are common in China, Turkey and Iran.

But others are seeing red and say the porcelain thrones are a nightmare to clean and have caused a cultural divide.

One member of staff described how cleaners had refused to touch the foreign toilets as they had been left in such an awful state.

She said: “The toilets were put in over the last six to eight weeks. We’re all shell-shocked. They have taken out two blocks of toilets and taken one from the men’s and one from the ladies and replaced them with these pans.

“Most of the Asians here are Muslims. It’s a great mix of people here and we all like that. We all get on great but now everyone’s frightened to broach the subject.”

A Royal Mail spokesman said: “The washroom facilities we provide in Manchester are intended to meet the needs of all our employees.”
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bloody stupid, causing conflict where none is needed, standard western toilets ok for other Muslims to use as well as westerners, its more hygienic and easier to clean, I have seen them in Turkey and China they are a disgrace, dirty and smelly, even Hong Kong didn't go that way.
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NWpostie wrote:bloody stupid, causing conflict where none is needed, standard wetsern toilets ok for other muslims to use as well as westerners, its more hygienic and easier to clean, I have seen them in Turkey and China they are a disgrace, dirty and smelly, even Hong Kong didn't go that way.

They also have them in Bosnia and Croatia, mind you they were a step up from plastic bags and a spade which I had to use some of the time over there. :sad: :sad:
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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
NWpostie wrote:bloody stupid, causing conflict where none is needed, standard wetsern toilets ok for other muslims to use as well as westerners, its more hygienic and easier to clean, I have seen them in Turkey and China they are a disgrace, dirty and smelly, even Hong Kong didn't go that way.

They also have them in Bosnia and Croatia, mind you they were a step up from plastic bags and a spade which I had to use some of the time over there. :sad: :sad:
Why the plastic bag? You crap ON the spade and then whizz as far as you can :angel

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This country is a hell of a barmy place.
Squat holes in place of proper, more hygenic, toilets. :roll:
Introducing the more squalid of third world practises in Britain, will do more harm than good.
And who's supposed to intergrate with who, the hosts with the interlopers, or the interlopers with the hosts? In other words, shouldn't anyone who decides to make their home in Britain, far, far, away from their actual home, shouldn't they be the one's having to fit in?
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DirtyHarry wrote:This country is a hell of a barmy place.
Squat holes in place of proper, more hygenic, toilets. :roll:
Introducing the more squalid of third world practises in Britain, will do more harm than good.
And who's supposed to intergrate with who, the hosts with the interlopers, or the interlopers with the hosts? In other words, shouldn't anyone who decides to make their home in Britain, far, far, away from their actual home, shouldn't they be the one's having to fit in?
:hmmmm I would perhaps choose different wording H, the sentiment is well meant though :nervous
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They have them in France and Italy - neither of which are Muslim countries, and neither of which can be described as squalid third world countries. These toilets have many advantages:

Proponents of squat toilets argue that:

It is less expensive and easier to clean and maintain.[2]
It does not involve any contact between the buttocks and thighs with a potentially unsanitary surface.[3]
The absence of water in the bowl avoids the problem water splashing upwards.
Squatting might help to build the required exhaust pressure more comfortably and quickly.[4]
Squatting makes elimination faster, easier and more complete.[5]
Elimination in squatting posture protects the nerves that control the prostate, bladder and uterus from becoming stretched and damaged.[6]
Squatting relaxes the puborectalis muscle which normally chokes the rectum in order to maintain continence.[7]
Squatting securely seals the ileocecal valve, between the colon and the small intestine. In the conventional sitting position, this valve is unsupported and often leaks during evacuation.[8]
For pregnant women, squatting avoids pressure on the uterus when using the toilet. Daily squatting helps prepare the mother-to-be for a more natural delivery.[9]
Squatting may reduce the occurrence or severity of hemorrhoids[1][10] and possibly other colorectal disorders such as diverticulosis[11] and appendicitis.[12]

I have highlighted the one advantage that may be of interest to Postman.
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Thanks for that info ccr - erm I don't think I'll be digging a hole any time soon, :chuckle
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"They have them in France and Italy - neither of which are Muslim countries, and neither of which can be described as squalid third world countries." :shock: well perhaps not third world. :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
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@clashcityrocker I can't see an old lady using them or a drunk, they will be falling everywhere in them loos.

Yes I remember seeing them in France, 15 years ago, also bearing in mind France have a significant Algerian immigrant community, Italy was backward anyway, just look at their political system to start with,
the Roman had a more advanced toilet system than them which involved sitting down NOT squatting.
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:crazy: Do they not think that most of us have bad backs, stiff knees, and sundry other work related bodily damange! Do they come complete wIth grab bars? And I just hope we do not have to adopt the other custom that normally goes with using the toilet this way! Clashcity--you've made me laugh with all that positive slant towards squatting, but as a female, I can tell you it's not true--if I adopted that position, I'd be leaving the loo with half my female organs trailing behind!
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How do you read the paper and squat?
Sounds rather precarious to me. :nervous
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fishtank wrote:How do you read the paper and squat?
Sounds rather precarious to me. :nervous
Is this another IWT based saving?
I wouldn't like to see the state of some guy after 10 pints and a particularly virulent curry, squatting over a hole in the ground.....................it could be messy :cuppa
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clashcityrocker wrote:They have them in France and Italy - neither of which are Muslim countries, and neither of which can be described as squalid third world countries. These toilets have many advantages:

Proponents of squat toilets argue that:

It is less expensive and easier to clean and maintain.[2]
It does not involve any contact between the buttocks and thighs with a potentially unsanitary surface.[3]
The absence of water in the bowl avoids the problem water splashing upwards.
Squatting might help to build the required exhaust pressure more comfortably and quickly.[4]
Squatting makes elimination faster, easier and more complete.[5]
Elimination in squatting posture protects the nerves that control the prostate, bladder and uterus from becoming stretched and damaged.[6]
Squatting relaxes the puborectalis muscle which normally chokes the rectum in order to maintain continence.[7]
Squatting securely seals the ileocecal valve, between the colon and the small intestine. In the conventional sitting position, this valve is unsupported and often leaks during evacuation.[8]
For pregnant women, squatting avoids pressure on the uterus when using the toilet. Daily squatting helps prepare the mother-to-be for a more natural delivery.[9]
Squatting may reduce the occurrence or severity of hemorrhoids[1][10] and possibly other colorectal disorders such as diverticulosis[11] and appendicitis.[12]

I have highlighted the one advantage that may be of interest to Postman.
well said yet again clash city
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:crazy: 'Hemorrhoids'? Should they not be called asteroids?