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ROYAL MAIL TO CUT 30% OF WORK FORCE AND OTHER NEWS

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Cost cuts may force Royal Mail to cut 30% of workers

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/b ... 615425.ece

Postman packs up

The head of Royal Mail’s main operation has quit in a dispute over £300 million of cost cuts demanded by the Government, according to The Times.

Ian Griffiths, managing director of Royal Mail Letters and No 3 in the group, walked out after the board rejected his business plan, part of the group’s proposal to win a £3.9 billion Government bailout. He is believed to think that the cuts are too severe ahead of sweeping automation of the business.

Mr Griffiths joined Royal Mail from GKN Automotive a year ago on a £500,000 salary. Severance terms were not disclosed but his predecessor, Elmar Toime, left with a £750,000 pay-off after 18 months in the job. Who's to blame if it’s lost in the post?



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re: Management aren't all c*nts

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I never met the guy as he joined after I left, but this shows that not all senior management are it it purely as fat c*nts or cats for that matter.

RM are always looking for 5% efficency improvements, which as I've said before is a negetive way of implementing change. Continuous improvement is the hallmark of a highly successful company.

The £300M savings required is the equivalent of shutting down the whole of South London's operation. The government seem to want transformational cost savings without using compulsory redundancies. There are an entrenched group of people both mgmt and frontline who will not leave even if made surplus to requirement as they cannot afford to go. I could make so many jobs surplus to requirement, but wouldn't necessarily save a penny.

This £300M savings is required to release the £3.9bn loan/investment. The investment could possibly save £300m, but RM has a poor track record of implementing IT/automation improvements. Especially without union co-operation. It is a high risk approach, and quality is likely to suffer in the short-term. Companies have got used to high quality of service, and are more likely to move to competitors if quality drops, or if people go out on strike, which in turn puts more financial pressures on the company.

I definitely think RM can reduce the number of mail sorting centres as the upstream volume is being taken on competitors esp. TNT, UK Mail and DHL. There are other smaller players who will help under-cut profits even further. RM will need to re-design their network more along one-level processing warehouses and align more closing with print production facilities.

Where does this leave the postie? Well to raise £300m from removing posties would make the system collapse. Some posties will have to go along with more management. However, the constant cost cutting and re-applying for jobs takes people's eye off the job and makes it difficult to directly compete with all of this internal focus.

However, this is what Adam & Big Al get paid to worry about, which is why if they successfully manage to balance all these balls then their salaries are truly worth it.

I personally think you should recognise Mr Griffifths stance, but also recognise that pressure on the government, regulator, and EU is required rather than just bash Crozier and Leighton over the head the whole time, even if they wanted to privatise the company and failed.

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Im interested in your points as usual Fozzie. The comment of jobs to surplus , but not saving a penny is a great point!!!!
This is Y your not working for the draconian RM now... But ur point on reducing MC's aint a good one in my view as This is the way we touch every delivery point in the country. A hub in every main gateway to a from every major city... We take away the T.P.O. And chuck all of it on roads. so we need More MC'S in this case.. Linking together not ripping apart the line of contact..

I didnt understand your point on "some posties will have to go along with more management." ??? Can u explain???

Big Al & lil ad aint worth half of there ££££££££££ Please dont carry on with this rant mate.. The gulf between THEM & US IS DISCUSTING!!! All i ever go back to in any point you make of this,, Is HOW CAN A PERSON GET £57,000 Insentive bonus, before even doing a stroke of work, Like a signing on fee???? Nice ahhhh Fozzie. We all would love that wouldnt we????? :shock: :roll: :shock: This Y WE the REAL workers have the hard job, honest job, not hiding behind the buffers of bullshit but taking it on the chin everyday.. Under stress and H&B and lies. Facing the sack in a job that WAS the only one where it was for life BEFORE..... SO when BIG AL and lil ad f**k off lets see how much they pocket. Just like Mr Ian Griffiths will.........


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re:Frustrating

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The mails network does not rely on having a mail centre in every city. The vast majority of mail that is created is from a small number of large print houses around the country. RM are still able to collect, sort and deliver 1st class service throughout the country, and have progressively closed down mail centres for several years.

For example, there used to be 10 mail centres in London, there will soon be only 4 left, but are bigger and better at processing mail.

Quality of mail is more likely to be assured with the least amount of 'touch' points and manual handling.

To get the £300M you will have to remove frontline and management staff. Less frontline staff means a smaller requirement for management to manage them. Spans of control etc... I won't bore you all with this.

I will harp on about Adam and Al as the £57K could be seen as a signing-on fee and so what if it was. If it mean't getting someone in who had half a chance of doing a reasonable job (when all things considered) then lets do it. If that means not losing a few trolleys a year (250 a pop and we spend £1M+ per year) replacing lost one's then it can be afforded without losing any staff!

Society in general has somehow got rid of the job for life. I reckon we will move towards a society with more of a balance once we get over our neo-conserative free market rules b*llox. I am as consumerist and capitalist as most people, but the concept of loyalty, investment in staff, local knowledge, etc.... are things I would stand on a platform and argue for.

If Griffifths resigned then he shouldn't get any golden handshake (though I cannot confirm this). My main concern for the future is that there may be too many yes men out there who then try and fudge the figures to satisfy their bosses. If this continues to happen and get worse rather than telling the truth, the company will collapse from within. I don't think this will/can happen as there are plenty of independent measures in place that the public will expose if quality etc... drop. However, I do know of a case where you can manipulate quality of service figures locally without technically breaking the rules, though those who got caught were given warnings!

Anyway I am rambling and intoxicated so I will shut-up and continue watching Bedazzled!!!

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Im intoxicated as well!!! I think ur point on the 57k is scandlous fozz.. SO WHAT" U SAY..... BAD FORM FOZZIEBOY!! :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: A signing on fee fo a man who f****d up the tickets and alot more for England football . Then gets a plum roll in RM for his .. WOT????? Knowledge of RM and workings??? NA!!!! This business is unlike any other. Its owned by the people at the head The Queen, (GAWD BLESS HER) AND NO BULLSHIT FLY BY NIGHT lil knob jocky old school tie merchant will take her place while the people want it this way... That 57K should of been a bonus IF lil adam makes this businness run as it should without ripping the guts out of it from within.... NOT BEFORE!!! BROWN PAPER BAGS COME TO MIND!!!! :mad :mad :mad :no no :no no :no no SO BOLLOCKS TO HIS HAND OUT,, WHERES MINE??? :shock: Ive done ever so well in my time in RM never had a code of conduct or bad mark before i got shat upon from the screws in East London Mail Center.... Bet Big Dave wouldnt mind 57K to get over his sacking from Burslem........... :so there

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re: Who owns RM?

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As for who owns RM I'll tell you who I think has the company by it's testicles. It's the big banks. Yes the top 5 banks if they stopped sending you those f*cking offers of loans, mortgages, credit cards etc... would bankrupt RM straight away. The top 100 spenders account for a serious amount (actually forgotten the figure so won't make it up) of RM's revenue. They are the one's who squeeze the profit margins and who have jumped ship and gone with the other competitors.

These are the same institutions who are getting favourable rates to do business in the UK by our treasury. The top 2 companies account for in the region of £600M in revenue per year.

I don't know the details of Crozier's £57K. I have heard rumours about whether he jumped before being pushed from the FA. Having said all of that when he was at the FA I actually felt the place was being run a bit more professionally (maybe style over substance!) but look what we've got now!!! As a double-act Al & Adam have represented RM as best as they can against the government's, regulators, and consumer bodies gang up on them, not to mention the journalists who don't always get their packages on time in Notting Hill Gate!

Let's get something straight here they are doing a damn good job at stifling competition (I should know as I work for the one of the competitors) and thank your lucky stars that there aren't either orange or yellow postmen walking up and down your streets yet.

As for intoxication I'm outside the pub doors now waiting for them to open!!! :crazy:

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We've lost a lot of the top 100 apparently and the greedy c***s not on the gravey train soon will be. :mad
What happend to loyalty and British Business helping each other out,mind you most of the top Business are foreign owned anyway,so i suppose that answers my question.

As for Laurel and Hardley,Crozier gave it the biggun when competition reached our shores 'Bring it on' he said 'We're ready',
now only last month he said he did not realise they could do so much and what impact they would have on RM.
He and the others sat in a f***ing darkened room counting out their Pounds(50's)and don't tell me any different.
What new products have got?what have they really done,apart from cutting jobs ,(Yes we know about the Management cuts :roll: ) what is there,is there stuff behind the scenes going on that we or anybody else don't know about?
If there is,it hasn't worked.

The cards were on the table at the start,they knew what they were playing with,and now they turn round and say they're suprised about how it's gone!!!!
And you say their salaries/signing on bloody fees/bonuses/or what f***ing ever are justified!!!

We 110% understand that to a certain extent the Business's hands are tied,but they are paid very well to go around that and they didn't.
You say they are stifling competition,interested in how,but in all fairness it doesn't seem to be working very well.

Billy Hayes was at our AGM last week,see in Blue Shirts,he said the Union told them how it would be and gave a few ideas,RM didn't want to know,nuff said.
Although now they are looking into some of the stuff.:roll:

On a last note,when was he last time we advertised,say on the tele or the like,the last time i rem was the Special Delivery ads years ago.
Surely we could of done some at the start of all this?
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re: Working backwards and not doing my Easter chores!

Post by F0zziebear »

Advertising: Bit of a waste of money in terms of return on investment. Having said that they have been promoting the 9:30am product (a joke in my opinion as operationally they never sorted it out).
As for new products. I agree, as I've seen bugger all as well.
You are also right about Adam going on about bringing on the competition, saying he wants RM to be the company of choice, and also saying that he expects upto 20% of the market to be in the competitors hands.
1. Competition has not taken much in terms of E2E
2. Very few new products out there, just cost cutting

RM are working really hard behind the scenes to prevent alternative delivery services. They will much prefer the competition to collect & sort mail and give it to you lot to deliver.

Curious to know what Billy Hayes's views were so will check them out

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