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A CRIMINAL culture at the heart of the Royal Mail is costing the beleaguered carrier millions and threatening its future.

In the past six years 1,842 workers have been fired for stealing post – the equivalent of six workers sacked every week.

Last year it cost Royal Mail £10million to compensate customers whose post had been stolen or lost.

The revelation will rock the postal service which is facing a huge £10billion pensions black hole and savage job cuts.
In the past 12 months Peterborough postman Alec Clark, 35, stole pornographic DVDs and women’s underwear and was jailed for six months.

Postman Steven Smith, 29, of Northern Ireland, stole cash from birthday cards before being caught in a sting.

Investigators put “test” cards in his sorting box. He was ordered to do 200 hours’ community ­service.

Ian McKeith, 47, of Macclesfield, Cheshire, received 200 hours’ community services after stealing £4,000 in postal surcharge fees to spend on fruit machines.

The Sunday Express obtained a request about Royal Mail under Freedom of Information legislation.

We asked: “How many staff have been fired as a result of being convicted or cautioned for the theft of post?”

Steve Lawson, editor of Hellmail, the UK’s leading postal news website, fears the scale of the problem could be even worse.

He said: “It would be reasonable to assume that in some instances, staff are simply ‘let go’ rather than have to start the wheels in motion in terms of a lengthy investigation. On that basis, the scale of the problem could be worse than we are led to believe.

We do live in an increasingly dishonest society and Royal Mail delivery depends largely on trust.”

A Royal Mail spoke-sman said: “The Royal Mail constantly reviews security to ensure the continuing integrity of the mail.

“We have a zero- tolerance approach to any dishonesty and, where there is evidence, we seek to bring offenders before the courts.

“While the overwhelming majority of all lettersposted arrive safely, we remain very vigilant to any risk to the operation,
including any threat from criminals outside Royal Mail who target postmen and women to steal the mail they are carrying.”
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TrueBlueTerrier wrote: Steve Lawson, editor of Hellmail, the UK’s leading postal news website, fears the scale of the problem could be even worse.

He said: “It would be reasonable to assume that in some instances, staff are simply ‘let go’rather than have to start the wheels in motion in terms of a lengthy investigation . On that basis, the scale of the problem could be worse than we are led to believe.
this guy evidently knows what he's talking about. since when has RM been known to lapse in methods in trying to get rid of staff
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Six sacked per week, but how many staff do Royal Mail employ ? :sad: No excuse ever for theft but it would be helpful to get it in proportion and know what the percentage is that are untrustworthy. :shock:
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perhaps RM should look after the trustworthy staff they have then
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In my experience wilfull delay is the cause of more sackings than thieving.
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They should have also asked how many were permanent staff, and how many were agency/temp/casual.
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resperin wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote: Steve Lawson, editor of Hellmail, the UK’s leading postal news website, fears the scale of the problem could be even worse.

He said: “It would be reasonable to assume that in some instances, staff are simply ‘let go’rather than have to start the wheels in motion in terms of a lengthy investigation . On that basis, the scale of the problem could be worse than we are led to believe.
this guy evidently knows what he's talking about. since when has RM been known to lapse in methods in trying to get rid of staff
he has posted the odd parcel - they've always played that card along with a bit of ? Union Bashing " in the past 12 months Peterborough postman Alec Clark, 35, stole pornographic DVDs and women’s underwear and was jailed for six months."


DGP might secretly wear women's underwear but at least it's honestly obtained or at least , I hope so

by Spartacus » Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:57,am

"In my experience wilfull delay is the cause of more sackings than thieving."
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norbert wrote:
resperin wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote: Steve Lawson, editor of Hellmail, the UK’s leading postal news website, fears the scale of the problem could be even worse.

He said: “It would be reasonable to assume that in some instances, staff are simply ‘let go’rather than have to start the wheels in motion in terms of a lengthy investigation . On that basis, the scale of the problem could be worse than we are led to believe.
this guy evidently knows what he's talking about. since when has RM been known to lapse in methods in trying to get rid of staff
he has posted the odd parcel - they've always played that card along with a bit of ? Union Bashing " in the past 12 months Peterborough postman Alec Clark, 35, stole pornographic DVDs and women’s underwear and was jailed for six months."
DGP might secretly wear women's underwear but at least it's honestly obtained or at least , I hope so

by Spartacus » Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:57,am

In my experience wilfull delay is the cause of more sackings than thieving.
He no longer wears womens underwear - he now goes commando, whilst wearing baggie legged shorts - and yes there have been complaints of too much flesh exposed - :nervous :shock:
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norbert wrote:
resperin wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote: Steve Lawson, editor of Hellmail, the UK’s leading postal news website, fears the scale of the problem could be even worse.

He said: “It would be reasonable to assume that in some instances, staff are simply ‘let go’rather than have to start the wheels in motion in terms of a lengthy investigation . On that basis, the scale of the problem could be worse than we are led to believe.
this guy evidently knows what he's talking about. since when has RM been known to lapse in methods in trying to get rid of staff
he has posted the odd parcel - they've always played that card along with a bit of ? Union Bashing " in the past 12 months Peterborough postman Alec Clark, 35, stole pornographic DVDs and women’s underwear and was jailed for six months."
DGP might secretly wear women's underwear but at least it's honestly obtained or at least , I hope so

by Spartacus » Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:57,am

In my experience wilfull delay is the cause of more sackings than thieving.
TBH I've never made any secret about it :wink: and yes, they are all obtained quite legally....................having them sent over from Japan in sealed packets is legal right?? :nervous
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"A CRIMINAL culture at the heart of the Royal Mail" - that suggests most Royal Mail employees are thieves, not perhaps 1% :shock: and it just goes to show how disreputable journalism has become in recent years - it wasn't that bad before Wapping replaced Fleet Street so I blame Thatcher, and I blame her too for thefts of mail having increased since her time with the 'no such thing as society' attitudes. :sad:
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A few weeks ago 5 staff were arrested at crewe mc, actually taken off the floor by the police, ALL 5 WERE AGENCY/CASUAL STAFF.
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DGP1 wrote:
norbert wrote:
resperin wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote: Steve Lawson, editor of Hellmail, the UK’s leading postal news website, fears the scale of the problem could be even worse.

He said: “It would be reasonable to assume that in some instances, staff are simply ‘let go’rather than have to start the wheels in motion in terms of a lengthy investigation . On that basis, the scale of the problem could be worse than we are led to believe.
this guy evidently knows what he's talking about. since when has RM been known to lapse in methods in trying to get rid of staff
he has posted the odd parcel - they've always played that card along with a bit of ? Union Bashing " in the past 12 months Peterborough postman Alec Clark, 35, stole pornographic DVDs and women’s underwear and was jailed for six months."
DGP might secretly wear women's underwear but at least it's honestly obtained or at least , I hope so

by Spartacus » Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:57,am

In my experience wilfull delay is the cause of more sackings than thieving.
TBH I've never made any secret about it :wink: and yes, they are all obtained quite legally....................having them sent over from Japan in sealed packets is legal right?? :nervous
A Cat for DGP ?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/animal-mag ... -22399538/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


"Peter and Birgitt Weismantel said they had no option but to call in the law as they feared that their neighbours would think there was a pervert on the loose."



" . If anyone is missing any underwear it would be good to put their minds at rest that it's only a cat pinching them and not someone more unpleasant."
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Under The Freedom of Information Act can we ask how many Express Newspaper Employees have been sacked and whether they were dismissed for criminal offenses?
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norbert wrote:
DGP1 wrote:
norbert wrote:
resperin wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote: Steve Lawson, editor of Hellmail, the UK’s leading postal news website, fears the scale of the problem could be even worse.

He said: “It would be reasonable to assume that in some instances, staff are simply ‘let go’rather than have to start the wheels in motion in terms of a lengthy investigation . On that basis, the scale of the problem could be worse than we are led to believe.
this guy evidently knows what he's talking about. since when has RM been known to lapse in methods in trying to get rid of staff
he has posted the odd parcel - they've always played that card along with a bit of ? Union Bashing " in the past 12 months Peterborough postman Alec Clark, 35, stole pornographic DVDs and women’s underwear and was jailed for six months."
DGP might secretly wear women's underwear but at least it's honestly obtained or at least , I hope so

by Spartacus » Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:57,am

In my experience wilfull delay is the cause of more sackings than thieving.
TBH I've never made any secret about it :wink: and yes, they are all obtained quite legally....................having them sent over from Japan in sealed packets is legal right?? :nervous
A Cat for DGP ?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/animal-mag ... -22399538/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


"Peter and Birgitt Weismantel said they had no option but to call in the law as they feared that their neighbours would think there was a pervert on the loose."



" . If anyone is missing any underwear it would be good to put their minds at rest that it's only a cat pinching them and not someone more unpleasant."





















Well it certainly felt more like hands than claws when my shreddies were removed :shock: :nervous
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dvbuk55 wrote:

Well it certainly felt more like hands than claws when my shreddies were removed :shock: :nervous
:shhhhh You aren't supposed to tell anyone.................at least not those who don't pay to watch :wink:
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