VACANCIES AT DELIVERY OFFICES CLARIFICATION

[Geezer]

TO ALL AREA DELIVERY REPS -

Please see below and attached from ***** ***** Regional IR/ER Manager with reference to dealing with vacant duties in delivery units.

This has been a major issue across the region but management have now agreed to follow the national process.

Please cascade the attached to all local reps.

See you all soon!

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Regional IR/ER Manager to All Managers


All


Following a meeting today with **** and myself with ***** **** could you please ensure that we are following all national agreements and clarification papers including the attached “Vacancies at Delivery Offices” from 2007 which is more commonly referred to as the Stoke Agreement.

The easiest way to ensure that we are meeting this agreement is to include discussions on the filling of vacancies at the weekly resource meetings where the discussions and outcomes are documented.

Please could you discuss with your teams asap

thanks

*****

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( Stoke Agreement )


VACANCIES AT DELIVERY OFFICES
CLARIFICATION FROM THE CWU AND ROYAL MAIL

Introduction

Further to the letter from Royal Mail’s Operations Director this joint clarification provides a simple process for delivery offices to follow when dealing with vacancies.
All vacancies should be dealt with in line with the national agreements covering efficiency savings, Way Forward (Way of Working) and the Industrial Relations Framework. Both parties confirm that there is no embargo on either full time or part time recruitment,

Process

1. All impending vacancies should be identified as far in advance as possible, and in sufficient time to fully utilise the IR Framework.

2. Once identified they should form part of the local weekly resourcing meetings and/or monthly resourcing/strategic involvement meetings. Time should be set aside at the weekly resourcing meetings to discuss longer term resourcing issues not just the week ahead.

3. Where a mutually acceptable solution cannot be found at the resourcing meeting then formal proposals regarding the vacancies should be exchanged and the full terms of the IR Framework followed. Both parties will commit to concluding the process within 4 weeks.

4. There will be isolated incidences when unplanned vacancies occur. These should be the exception rather than the rule. When they occur offices will in the short term cover the workload in line with normal local procedures and national agreements. The long term solution should then be agreed in line with process above with each case dealt with on its individual merits.

Efficiency

Where unplanned vacancies occur and the units agree to fill vacancies on reduced hourage while the process above is being exhausted, any savings agreed in the final deal will be backdated. Savings will be accrued in line with the efficiency agreement from the date the reduced hours are introduced.



Signed……………………………….. Signed…………………………………..
CWU Royal Mail


Date…………………………..

[dvbuk55]

Well this agreement is slightly out of date as there are no longer "accrued efficiency savings", that part of the deal is no longer valid so is the rest of the deal valid and this seems to be an unsigned agreement; as far as I am aware there has never been a discussion since the recruitment of part time staff after the efficiency agreement ended - there has been only one full time appointment in about 5 years and he is an apprentice appointed to 40 hours if you can credit it.

[Geezer]

This has just been emailed out today by the Div Rep.To all Area and Office Reps.
The mentioned meeting, was last week and the letter to managers was then sent out.
I presum the unsigned letter you refer to was sent for guidence, so Reps know what the stoke agreement is.

[DGP1]

So the flapping about done by the managers in my office is wrong so their insistance that there's no time for the resource meetings is wrong so all those vacant duties that we have and the manager won't fill (or even put on the board) is wrong

[dvbuk55]

So the flapping about done by the managers in my office is wrong so their insistance that there's no time for the resource meetings is wrong so all those vacant duties that we have and the manager won't fill (or even put on the board) is wrong

Well if it is wrong it seems to be a pretty widespread fault judging from some of the posts.........................

[Geezer]

In my area the Area Reps have made it quite clear that resorce meetings must take place and time must be found to release the Office Rep for it.
Anyone who is not having them is meant to flag it to Area and they pass it on to Divsion.
Can i point out now before you all jump at me saying your lucky, this is a new phenomena and has only started since the Agreement.
The new DSM seems to be up for working together, but as i have said before, words are cheap so i reseve my judgement for now.

[dvbuk55]

I my area the Area Reps have made it quite clear that resorce meetings must take place and time must be found to release the Office Rep for it.
Anyone who is not having them is ment to flag it to Area and they pass it on to Divsion.
Can i point out now before you all jump at me saying your lucky, this is a new phenomena and has only started since the Agreement.
The new DSM seems to be up for working together, but as i have said before, words are cheap so i reseve my judgement for now.

Nobody is going to jump down your throat g It's obvious that some areas are much better organised than others due to the varying committment by those who are elected and in fairness to he who shall be nameless, he does seem committed even over-committed on some aspects.

The rub is when there is a disagreement and that is when we will see the true colours hoisted. In truth there hasn't been much to argue about yet because there hasn't been any revisions to speak of and when people realise that there is a work plan by Royal Mail and it may well not fall into the idea of the general workforce' ideal that's when the imposition begins. The WS revisions will be the real tester of both the 75/25 split and the protection of jobs in general let alone full time jobs.

[Geezer]

With you on that one Dvb

I'm not convinced yet, I have heard lots of words but not seen much action.To be fair to the Area Reps they have had a hard job in the last couple of years.
We had a DSM who thought his word was the word of God and must be obayed, but he went like the last 3 or 4 Demoted or moved.
The new DSM says's all the right things but Action is what counts although my Don now lets me look at anything i want on his comp to prove he's not hiding anything from me.
I should point out that i'm at present helping the Office Rep with all the Revsion stuff as he isn't all that great with computers,The big problem i am finding is my work colleges.
I have been doing my damest to get them on board, but all i get are snide remarks from some of them and the old i don't care.Now for the last few weeks i have been signed off work
but have gone in to do the revision stuff, and as of this week i'm on short days and light duties. ( Had an op on my Knee as its f****d from an AOD, this is the third one )
Now my so called friends did'nt ask why i was back and doing it, instead just start slagging me off, so i think why should i tell them i was signed off but in work instead of sitting out in the sun.
Trying to make sure everything was done fairly and we weren't stitched up.So to summerise it's not just the CWU that need to see the light it's some of us who work on the front line as well

[DGP1]

The problem Geezer is that most of us have been through a lot and we are skeptical about what's going to happen, I put a lot of effort into the last 'revision' only for it to be binned by management because..............well they didn't give a reason they just binned it (at not to mention the even more recent one that was to try to take some of the extreme excess of a few of the duties but we where told that it also wasn't happening............again no excuse).

[Geezer]

DPG1

Yes and i whole hartedly understand that, But i don't see what we have to gain by just getting a strop on and refusing to have any imput.
It will in all likelihood turn out that RM were talking a load of Bull, but if we do are bit and it goes tits up they cannot say it was our fault.

[dvbuk55]

With you on that one Dvb

I'm not convinced yet, I have heard lots of words but not seen much action.To be fair to the Area Reps they have had a hard job in the last couple of years.
We had a DSM who thought his word was the word of God and must be obayed, but he went like the last 3 or 4 Demoted or moved.
The new DSM sys's all the right things but Action is what counts although my Don now lets me look at anything i won't on his comp to prove he's not hiding anything from me.
I should point out that i'm at present helping the Office Rep with all the Revsion stuff as he isn't all that great with computers,The big problem i am finding is my work colleges.
I have been doing my damest to get them on board, but all i get are snide remarks from some of them and the old i don't care.Now for the last few weeks i have been signed off work
but have gone in to do the revision stuff, and as of this week i'm on short days and light duties. ( Had an op on my Knee as its f****d from an AOD, this is the third one )
Now my so called friends did'nt ask why i was back and doing it, instead just start slagging me off, so i think why should i tell them i was signed off but in work instead of sitting out in the sun.
Trying to make sure everything was done fairly and we weren't stitched up.So to summerise it's not just the CWU that need to see the light it's some of us who work on the front line as well

Every credit to you G. You will find that you can take a horse to the trough etc etc. If there was a rep who was obviously trying to make this work to the benefit of his workmates you'd expect them to help and not hinder. You have reiterated exactly the problem as to why the CWU is not effective in the workplace and that is the lack of inclusion and poor communication - I really hope this new initiative works for the sake of all who are left. There is the threat of privatisation of course and that will be the new Sword of Damocles to push faster and harder.

[postmanx]

Trying to make sure everything was done fairly and we weren't stitched up.So to summerise it's not just the CWU that need to see the light it's some of us who work on the front line as well

Thats so true - its hard work with some of them!! Do The Job Properly !!!!! Simples !!!!!

[Geezer]

To add to what i said earlier, The new DSM has been moved temporarily, to help out in an area where WCM is going tits up.
So we now have a Temp DSM from the adjacent area running ours and his area. Well and your all going to smile at this,
He called all the Managers in for meetings and said he wants budget cuts, which is the opposite of what our Area DSM was shouting.
No working together from this temp DSM, just you do as your told. So yesterday i was on the phone to the Area Rep and we have now put in a stage one Disagreement.
My Manager who i must admit is up for working together is now totally pissed off and on our side about the stage one.

Funny Old World

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When you work for Royal Fail

[dvbuk55]

To add to what i said earlier, The new DSM has been moved temporarily, to help out in an area where WCM is going tits up.
So we now have a Temp DSM from the adjacent area running ours and his area. Well and your all going to smile at this,
He called all the Managers in for meetings and said he wants budget cuts, which is the opposite of what our Area DSM was shouting.
No working together from this temp DSM, just you do as your told. So yesterday i was on the phone to the Area Rep and we have now put in a stage one Disagreement.
My Manager who i must admit is up for working together is now totally pissed off and on our side about the stage one.

Funny Old World

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When you work for Royal Fail

Well I don't want to be seen as sympathetic to managers in general, some are real arseholes, but at DO level you are going to find DOMs who have come through the ranks and the information they are getting is no better than the reps albeit from a different perspective, which makes it difficult to negotiate and more or less puts them and the reps on the same side.

[Geezer]

DVB

Funny how quick things change in RM

It's like a rerun of a paul Danials magic show, you Know

YOUR GONNA LIKE THIS.............NOT A LOT