Example Duty Structure Spreadsheet

[Geezer]

Example Duty Structure Spreadsheet

[dvbuk55]

Again G a very interesting document - I noticed that the total number of current staff was 71 and the proposed number was 72 and the split was 41 full time and 31 part time - now when I went to school that doesn't work out at a 75/25% split no no it works out more like a 58/42 split - not too unlike my office which is just about that.

Though I am sure I am wrong because even in an example you would think they would want to get as close as possible to the AGREED ratio wouldn't you.

[POSTMAN]

It's a NATIONAL split,dv but you know that...

[dvbuk55]

It's a NATIONAL split,dv but you know that...

Of course I know that BUT there is little point in spouting about a 75/25 split and saving full time jobs when it is restricted to a small group in a small area which then makes it totally unrepresentative - which is the hallmark of this agreement. When it is called NATIONAL you would expect it encompassed the whole organisation wouldn't you?

Once the savings start encroaching on the holy ground it is going to be impossible to maintain that split nationally and I hope I'm here long enough to see it. The TNT model from the Netherlands is touted as the ultimate aim of RM, now do you think they are going to achieve it - absolutely without doubt and with this present Government, sooner rather than later.

[pickaname]

TNT model wouldnt work in the UK simply because they couldnt get the work done on 100% 25hr contracts.

They would have to employ more bodies on smaller contracts and its simply inefficient to have more bodies working less hours.

Better to have less bodies doing more hours.

But then again RMCWU PLC seem do the opposite of any sane person lately.

[dvbuk55]

TNT model wouldnt work in the UK simply because they couldnt get the work done on 100% 25hr contracts.

They would have to employ more bodies on smaller contracts and its simply inefficient to have more bodies working less hours.

Better to have less bodies doing more hours.

But then again RMCWU PLC seem do the opposite of any sane person lately.

Absolutely right P BUT you certainly aren't going to have a 75/25 split and indeed the more you see of part timers coming in and bagging up and delivering the more you understand the model which is the ultimate aim - the part timers may not even be employed by RM Limited, the full timers would be IPS and prep hence the reliance on WS.

[celerycelery]

Be interesting to know how many offices have a 75/25% split. In the last 6 years we have i would estimate 25 full time staff leave and not 1 full time replacement or 1 part-timer made up too full time. We are nearly 50/50 or even 45/55 in favour of part timers.

[dvbuk55]

Be interesting to know how many offices have a 75/25% split. In the last 6 years we have i would estimate 25 full time staff leave and not 1 full time replacement or 1 part-timer made up too full time. We are nearly 50/50 or even 45/55 in favour of part timers.

And even more interesting to know who has a 97/3 split, 95/5, 100/0 because if our offices have so many part timers then others must have full timers by the bushel and my question would be - HOW ARE THEY MANAGING FULL TIME STAFF WITH FALLING MAIL VOLUMES, LESS IPS AND PREP TIME unless - and this I can't believe - the outdoor element has been increased significantly.

[cantbelieveit's...]

Be interesting to know how many offices have a 75/25% split. In the last 6 years we have i would estimate 25 full time staff leave and not 1 full time replacement or 1 part-timer made up too full time. We are nearly 50/50 or even 45/55 in favour of part timers.

And even more interesting to know who has a 97/3 split, 95/5, 100/0 because if our offices have so many part timers then others must have full timers by the bushel and my question would be - HOW ARE THEY MANAGING FULL TIME STAFF WITH FALLING MAIL VOLUMES, LESS IPS AND PREP TIME unless - and this I can't believe - the outdoor element has been increased significantly.

My office is running 116 f/t and 13 p/t, thats a split of 89% f/t and 11% pt.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Be interesting to know how many offices have a 75/25% split. In the last 6 years we have i would estimate 25 full time staff leave and not 1 full time replacement or 1 part-timer made up too full time. We are nearly 50/50 or even 45/55 in favour of part timers.

And even more interesting to know who has a 97/3 split, 95/5, 100/0 because if our offices have so many part timers then others must have full timers by the bushel and my question would be - HOW ARE THEY MANAGING FULL TIME STAFF WITH FALLING MAIL VOLUMES, LESS IPS AND PREP TIME unless - and this I can't believe - the outdoor element has been increased significantly.

My office is running 116 f/t and 13 p/t, thats a split of 89% f/t and 11% pt.

Nirvana

we are at about 55/45 in my DO with some sections at 40/60

[dvbuk55]

During the agreement it was suggested the current NATIONAL split is 79/21, which without conflicting data we have to go along with, soooooo it would look like there is going to be a loss of another 4% in order to maintain the "National" average - now where is that 4% going to fall do you think, those offices at 87/13 or like TBTs 55/45? Now if it was an office with a 50/50% split it would take their average even lower whilst some other office benefits - just another example of winners and losers, grow a pair, OR the indisputable fact that IF YOU CANNOT JUSTIFY THE WORKLOAD YOU CANNOT MAINTAIN A 75/25 SPLIT and for the CWU to maintain that it can both police and enforce an "around" figure is absolutely ludicrous.

[Big Daz]

75/25 is easy to have, simply drop staff numbers enough and as if by magic......

[dvbuk55]

75/25 is easy to have, simply drop staff numbers enough and as if by magic......

Hardly protecting full time jobs is it - actually not protecting jobs at all - it's a pie in the sky statement, unenforceable and impossible to control.

[stokes11eg]

Be interesting to know how many offices have a 75/25% split. In the last 6 years we have i would estimate 25 full time staff leave and not 1 full time replacement or 1 part-timer made up too full time. We are nearly 50/50 or even 45/55 in favour of part timers.

There was a time im my office when only new starts worked part time hours. usually within the year, they were made up to full time. Now, I'd estimate more than 50% are part time. Even worse ofcourse, is the fact that part time hours can range from less than twenty per week, to nearly full time.

[fishtank]

75/25 is easy to have, simply drop staff numbers enough and as if by magic......

But Daz....the majority of staff being dropped at the moment are....full-time.
I'm no maths genius but surely that will make the 75/25 ratio even harder to achieve.