And we haven't got to 5 or 6 d2d yet
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The 'How was your D2D today?' thread
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gb93
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Re: The 'How was your D2D today?' thread
Well today sure seems to have livened things up on this forum.Who said things had gone quiet on here recently.
And we haven't got to 5 or 6 d2d yet
And we haven't got to 5 or 6 d2d yet
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beanmuncha
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Re: The 'How was your D2D today?' thread
Well since D2D's are now live mail they are counted with the mail and if we go over 20,000 (i think) (used to be 16,000) we don't lapse, and as for doing them it's just got to be done. No one likes it but what can we lemmings do about it!!
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maisymoo04
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Re: The 'How was your D2D today?' thread
DIDNT NO IT STARTED GOT 2 ANYWAY UNDER ME FITTING HAHAHA 
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zabman
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Re: The 'How was your D2D today?' thread
why is it that all delivery offices are willing to do the d2d without any additional time being allocated for this?
why are our union chiefs towing the management line?
why has no negotiations between union and management taken place in order to accomodate d2d into workload. instead management bullied this through with direct instruction, while the union quietly watched and allowed it to happen.
why are our union chiefs towing the management line?
why has no negotiations between union and management taken place in order to accomodate d2d into workload. instead management bullied this through with direct instruction, while the union quietly watched and allowed it to happen.
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zabman
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Re: The 'How was your D2D today?' thread
In my opinion if we didn't have to lapse, that time would cater for the delivery of d2d.
Also if part time staff was brought in early to throw their own walks in, allowing more full time staff on the sorting. Also the removal of all savings, then in my opinion this would be sufficient time saved in order to prep the d2d.
Lets not forget fellow colleagues that time was to be allocated for prep and delivery of d2d according to the agreement.
SO come on people isn't it time we asked for what they promised.
Also if part time staff was brought in early to throw their own walks in, allowing more full time staff on the sorting. Also the removal of all savings, then in my opinion this would be sufficient time saved in order to prep the d2d.
Lets not forget fellow colleagues that time was to be allocated for prep and delivery of d2d according to the agreement.
SO come on people isn't it time we asked for what they promised.
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Big Daz
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Re: The 'How was your D2D today?' thread
zabman
The problem with DTD into workload is that there isa lack of clarity on wether its for providng time for increased DTD or for duties still having 3 or less a week.
If a OPG is doing 3 or less a week and doing within your hours of attendance then obvisouly you dont ned more time. DTD into workload will come into its own when revisions take place and new delivery routes are planned and DTD volumes are taken into account at the planning stage.
The problem with DTD into workload is that there isa lack of clarity on wether its for providng time for increased DTD or for duties still having 3 or less a week.
If a OPG is doing 3 or less a week and doing within your hours of attendance then obvisouly you dont ned more time. DTD into workload will come into its own when revisions take place and new delivery routes are planned and DTD volumes are taken into account at the planning stage.
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zabman
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Re: The 'How was your D2D today?' thread
big daz
the agreement is quite clear, it states that time will be given for prep and delivery of d2d. an OPG can deliver d2d in the allotted time but he doesn't carry the additional weight of the normal day to day mail and packets.
you are right in saying that the revision will take all things into consideration, and the walk sequencing machines will free up time for prep of d2d. however will we have to suffer until that happens. since the correct procedure of implementation was not followed, i say lets demand the management make time for doing the d2d.
the agreement is quite clear, it states that time will be given for prep and delivery of d2d. an OPG can deliver d2d in the allotted time but he doesn't carry the additional weight of the normal day to day mail and packets.
you are right in saying that the revision will take all things into consideration, and the walk sequencing machines will free up time for prep of d2d. however will we have to suffer until that happens. since the correct procedure of implementation was not followed, i say lets demand the management make time for doing the d2d.
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Big Daz
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Re: The 'How was your D2D today?' thread
The DTD update last friday made it clear absorption is acceptable so long as the correct procedure is used. Im 100% certain my DOM will propose this and will produce some very strong evidence to go with it.
The guidelines for DTD in the interim period section 10 talks about calculating hours needed and comparing against scheduled hours, what happens if the scheduled hours are enough, that would mean no adjustment.
From the 4th June update
As far as absorption is concerned we have never refuted that there may be opportunities to do this but it cannot be the start point for moving D2D into workload, in fact it was never raised in the national negotiations. The position on absorption is this. Managers are at liberty to propose absorption; however they must place the evidence for this before our representatives. Evidence which must include traffic figures for the office and broken down into delivery routes, this must be based on letters, flats, packets and D2D. This should also be supplemented with recent week’s figures so that comparisons can be made. Then a sensible discussion should take place based upon factual data/statistics. If this does not happen then you are not at liberty to absorb.
From the guidelines
Unit managers should review the workload for your unit with the CWU representative based on your notified D2D volumes and determine how best to allow for this workload in terms of both prep and delivery time. To calculate the impact on workload you should use the Delivery Productivity Tool (DPT) / Indoor Workload Tool (IWT). These tools will calculate the total hours required compared to scheduled hours from which decisions can be taken about how best to flex hours to match workload. This information should be discussed and reviewed with the CWU at the local weekly resourcing meeting.
The guidelines for DTD in the interim period section 10 talks about calculating hours needed and comparing against scheduled hours, what happens if the scheduled hours are enough, that would mean no adjustment.
From the 4th June update
As far as absorption is concerned we have never refuted that there may be opportunities to do this but it cannot be the start point for moving D2D into workload, in fact it was never raised in the national negotiations. The position on absorption is this. Managers are at liberty to propose absorption; however they must place the evidence for this before our representatives. Evidence which must include traffic figures for the office and broken down into delivery routes, this must be based on letters, flats, packets and D2D. This should also be supplemented with recent week’s figures so that comparisons can be made. Then a sensible discussion should take place based upon factual data/statistics. If this does not happen then you are not at liberty to absorb.
From the guidelines
Unit managers should review the workload for your unit with the CWU representative based on your notified D2D volumes and determine how best to allow for this workload in terms of both prep and delivery time. To calculate the impact on workload you should use the Delivery Productivity Tool (DPT) / Indoor Workload Tool (IWT). These tools will calculate the total hours required compared to scheduled hours from which decisions can be taken about how best to flex hours to match workload. This information should be discussed and reviewed with the CWU at the local weekly resourcing meeting.
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Big Daz
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Re: The 'How was your D2D today?' thread
From the guidelines
However, the projected ramp up of D2D volumes is not expected to pose a weight on delivery issue for most offices.
However, the projected ramp up of D2D volumes is not expected to pose a weight on delivery issue for most offices.
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music4essex
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Re: The 'How was your D2D today?' thread
I walked in to the office at 5.45 and low and behold the dom and LM were Prepping D2D in 2 different walks
apparently they were doing it at 5.30 we are not meant to start till 6am
Yet the walks they were doing were the lapsed one's
I was asked to do the reps job today but all the while most of my collegues come in early do the d2d in there own time there is no way on earth i will represent them. plus also have a little legal problem at home with neighbours that is going to court so need my time spent on that.
We seem to be going around in circles with the d2d
had an argumrnt with someone who does an sa delivery that i part prep, I had mentioned it to the dom that he wanted me to prep in d2d in 2 days I said no as this would impact on my own and told him that the agreement states that i only throw in 1 6th so I only prepped 83 instead of 142 they wanted me too
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Essex mum
apparently they were doing it at 5.30 we are not meant to start till 6am
Yet the walks they were doing were the lapsed one's
I was asked to do the reps job today but all the while most of my collegues come in early do the d2d in there own time there is no way on earth i will represent them. plus also have a little legal problem at home with neighbours that is going to court so need my time spent on that.
We seem to be going around in circles with the d2d
had an argumrnt with someone who does an sa delivery that i part prep, I had mentioned it to the dom that he wanted me to prep in d2d in 2 days I said no as this would impact on my own and told him that the agreement states that i only throw in 1 6th so I only prepped 83 instead of 142 they wanted me too
Happpy days
Essex mum
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fishtank
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Re: The 'How was your D2D today?' thread
It is quite sad just how many people appear to be looking for ways around doing this properly and forgetting that the idea was to protect jobs....theirs included.music4essex wrote:I walked in to the office at 5.45 and low and behold the dom and LM were Prepping D2D in 2 different walks![]()
apparently they were doing it at 5.30 we are not meant to start till 6am![]()
Yet the walks they were doing were the lapsed one's![]()
I was asked to do the reps job today but all the while most of my collegues come in early do the d2d in there own time there is no way on earth i will represent them. plus also have a little legal problem at home with neighbours that is going to court so need my time spent on that.
We seem to be going around in circles with the d2d
had an argumrnt with someone who does an sa delivery that i part prep, I had mentioned it to the dom that he wanted me to prep in d2d in 2 days I said no as this would impact on my own and told him that the agreement states that i only throw in 1 6th so I only prepped 83 instead of 142 they wanted me too
Happpy days
Essex mum
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krussel
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Re: The 'How was your D2D today?' thread
I know its the same in my office with people coming in a 5.30am to prep them nowfishtank wrote:It is quite sad just how many people appear to be looking for ways around doing this properly and forgetting that the idea was to protect jobs....theirs included.music4essex wrote:I walked in to the office at 5.45 and low and behold the dom and LM were Prepping D2D in 2 different walks![]()
apparently they were doing it at 5.30 we are not meant to start till 6am![]()
Yet the walks they were doing were the lapsed one's![]()
I was asked to do the reps job today but all the while most of my collegues come in early do the d2d in there own time there is no way on earth i will represent them. plus also have a little legal problem at home with neighbours that is going to court so need my time spent on that.
We seem to be going around in circles with the d2d
had an argumrnt with someone who does an sa delivery that i part prep, I had mentioned it to the dom that he wanted me to prep in d2d in 2 days I said no as this would impact on my own and told him that the agreement states that i only throw in 1 6th so I only prepped 83 instead of 142 they wanted me too
Happpy days
Essex mum![]()
Wake up its part of the workload just like letters, but will they listen, nope just blank looks
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DGP1
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Re: The 'How was your D2D today?' thread
My office seems to be unique, from Monday we've had control sheets with the areas to be covered (and the amount of D2Ds to be delivered that day) and a section to sign each day to confirm you've delivered them.
Some teething problems over the size of the sections but that'll be sorted out for next week.................I can't believe my managers have actually done something right

Some teething problems over the size of the sections but that'll be sorted out for next week.................I can't believe my managers have actually done something right
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Big Daz
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Re: The 'How was your D2D today?' thread
Dont say that Mr fishtank, you will have me worrying about what awaits me when I return to work Monday after 2 weeks A/L.
The H and S rep for my D.O has allready informed of some grumbles
The H and S rep for my D.O has allready informed of some grumbles
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dazzlin72
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Re: The 'How was your D2D today?' thread
Same at our office DGP1. I was on A/L last week and someone else did the 1/6th splits, which i've noticed today is much more at the back end of the week when it's heavier, and so will also have to tweak. It's going to be difficult though as Sat, Mon, Tue, are shorter working days and so minimal D2Ds need to be done on these days really. As a consequence of having 4 D2ds this week and not being allocated into duty time, i culled a 1/4 of my walk Monday. If nothing is implemented then i can see this happening more and more on the shorter working days.