Wool pulled over 1 in 4 sats off !!

[banner18]

I would work every saturday because they are not important to me I admit. My wife goes shopping all day and I am not a footballing guy. I know some are really bothered by it but people such as me may work every saturday providing there is some incentive which would allow others every saturday off.

if saturdays are not important to you then why would you need an incentive to work them all ?

For instance, a 3 day week 10 hour day for part timers or something.

but my original question still stands - "if saturdays are not important to you then why would you need an incentive to work them all ? "
unless of course you are looking to be rewarded for working a day which is unimportant to you

Well maybe they are, but not nearly as important as they are to others.

[michael r postie]

wat are r mail thinking of staff wish for more saturdays off i get a sat -mon every 6 weeks im happy with that
do i want to work til 1500 on a sat i doubt it very much
if people go sick and there is no cover we will asked to do more
it use to be job and finish on a sat in our office they change the rules every week
all the m3 in date they get sorted so you dont have an easy sat thats the one day i think all posties wud like to finish early
we havnt got a union rep as such so 1 day we sort for 15 mins then 20 then 30 then managers moan if we cut off
the sticking thing is managers do the deliveries what are left in our office it looks good because no overtime is recorded but the higher ups dont realise the real position in our office managers delivering until 1700 but not booking thus it looks like saving money its a con

[maisymoo04]

told ye best solution 5 day week now with a spare to cover ye day off keeps them with a job so dont have to get rid of anyone you get a long weekend sat mon off thats what we do now everyone is happy

[bunkerland]

Just the usual groaning from those who refuse to work to their hours.

I've seen you post this a few times,who are you talking about?

I've never seen anyone in my office refuse to work their hours,just as well cause it would probably result in them being sacked,and I've not read any posts on here from people saying they shouldn't have to work their hours either! Perhaps you could use the quote facility to prove me wrong though,or are you just full of it?

Its a case of reading between the lines I suppose.

Without meaning to belittle your self proclaimed powers of telepathy,i think in the interests of accuracy it's probably better to just stick to a more factual element in other people's posts!

[POSTMAN]

We cant do 4 days weeks coz our office doesnt do collections

so were screwed whatever happens , 5 days and long sats , cant work shorter hours in the week, so wheres the extra time coming from ??

Collections are nothing to do with it.
Post or pm me your office specs.
Full and part time duties,reserves,rest day covers,phg,drives with their content,the full shabang and i'll have a look.

[mclovin]

We cant do 4 days weeks coz our office doesnt do collections

so were screwed whatever happens , 5 days and long sats , cant work shorter hours in the week, so wheres the extra time coming from ??

So who empties the post offices/boxes in your postcode area???

Someone will be doing it, and in the future, that person or persons will be from your office.

[bogstandard]

Whatever happens , its a huge s**t sandwich ,and we are stuck right in the middle

i beg to differ i think you are the one being fed

[Martin Walsh]

Jimmy you wide of the mark, stop listening to the constant moaning of some posters and start getting your rep to start understanding what type of attendance patterns your office want.

There are a number of systems which dont mean you have to work an 10 hour day.

Here are some :

2 in 6 Saturdays off in a rotating 5 day off system with a short tuesday but is based on you working an 8 hour 30 mins day.This system provides 8 4 day weeks per year. It also allows for 17 saturdays off plus annual leave compared to the current system which only allows 8 or 9 Saturdays off.

Wallington plus which allows for 2 saturdays off in every 6. The attendance is 8.30 with a shorter Tuesday. This system allows for the Saturday off before your wally week kicks in ( week off ). This structure provides for 8 clear days off in every 5 weeks and provides 17 Saturdays off plus your annual leave weeks are over and above the 17 Saturdays off.

2 rotating full time duties based on a 4 and half day week with fixed part time cover on Saturdays and Monday. The attendance will be 8.30 per day ( shorter on tuesdays ) This system provides the full timers an 26 saturdays per year off or 30 for someone who have 4 weeks annual leave and 32 for someone with 6 weeks annual leave. This system also allows for part timers the opportunity to work 3 days less per week for the same hourage and pay. An ideal duty pattern for CDV vans.

2 in 6 ( 1 in 3 Saturdays off ) in 5 day rotating day off system. This is agian a 8 hour 30 mins day. You bank 12 hours 30 mins over the 6 week period which can be cashed up or used for leave purposes. This also provides 17 Saturdays off over the year rising to 21 for someone with 4 weeks annual leave and 23 with someone with 6 weeks annual leave. This system also provides for 1 four day week in every 6 weeks.

4 day weeks on 3 week rotation

This system gives one saturday off in 3 meaning 17 saturdays per year off rising to 21 for someone who has 4 weeks annual leave and 23 for someone with 6 weeks annual leave.

9 day fortnight system which is based on 6 days one week and 3 days the following week. This is an 8 hour 45 mins duty ( shorter on Tuesday ) This system provides for 1 in 4 four Saturdays off. Plus every four week an indvidual gets Thursday , Friday , Saturday , Monday , Tuesday and Wednesday off in a row.

The other 9 day fortnight option is 5 days one week 4 days the following week. This is an 8 hour 54 day and provides 1 Saturday off in 4 and with a long weekend of Friday , Saturday and Monday. 13 Saturdays off per year rising to 17 with 4 weeks annual leave and 19 weeks with 6 weeks annual leave.


Please dont listen to the rubbish from your Delviery Office manager they will come in. I cant believe the ammount of posters who were arguing for a no vote which would have meant a fight now all suddenly accept what their manager says !! The agreement will be deployed fairly and in all units. Off to a meeting to discuss just that.

[realmichael]

The agreement will be deployed fairly and in all units. Off to a meeting to discuss just that.[/quote]


you are having a laugh are you not?

and if not can i have some of what your on

[Martin Walsh]

You sure don't need any wine as you do it in every post you make!

[realmichael]

good one!

[POSTMAN]

Holy s**t dingo Nice one.

[mclovin]

How about the fact I "WANT", a 5 day week, 8 hour day?????

Is that so fookin hard to underfuckinstand???????

[POSTMAN]

How about the fact I "WANT", a 5 day week, 8 hour day?????

Is that so fookin hard to underfuckinstand???????

Then if your office votes to stay the same then you're ok.
But looking at some of the options,a bit extra now and again and you could be onto a winner.

[fishtank]

What comes first,the workplan or the attendance pattern dingo?
Does your office agree attendance patterns and then the office workplan has to be adapted around it or vice versa?