Moving on,why haven't you lot got the reg on the vans,that is why we have the PDA's.
Can't comment on Jenny's office but mine.... 300-400 reg on the vans. ...Now that would be some achievement.
I assume some of those specials will already be on the vans because of their size.
If /When we move to later deliveries the spec isn't going to change.
Either we change the way we do them or we end up failing more than we currently do, and management have to accept the consequent compensation payouts and potential loss of business.
Well i would imagine when we are all in vans the idea may be to plan your delivery to enable delivery inside the existing spec.
fishtank wrote:
Well i would imagine when we are all in vans the idea may be to plan your delivery to enable delivery inside the existing spec.
Not everyone will be in vans.
Some of us are months/years away from that Utopia.
It can't be that difficult for the numpties to find a solution to the problem.
Remember when SD's were the jewel in the crown. Cheaper and more efficient than any of our competitors.
If you need an example of how s**t our managers really are, then SD's are a prime example.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
Moving on,why haven't you lot got the reg on the vans,that is why we have the PDA's.
Can't comment on Jenny's office but mine.... 300-400 reg on the vans. ...Now that would be some achievement.
I assume some of those specials will already be on the vans because of their size.
If /When we move to later deliveries the spec isn't going to change.
Either we change the way we do them or we end up failing more than we currently do, and management have to accept the consequent compensation payouts and potential loss of business.
Well i would imagine when we are all in vans the idea may be to plan your delivery to enable delivery inside the existing spec.
You are spot on ft, rural van drivers and park and loopers are told to break off and deliver within spec OR ELSE - walkers can get away with leaving an odd one in, we would have about 300 per day and of those about 5/6 would be left for someone to do on a special visit.
The answer would be individual PDAs for all delivery officers, however we don't have enough to cover the Bulks, Rural Vans and Park and loopers and it is very difficult to get the tracked covered and so some specials are still on the 4550.
I just wonder how long it will be before we get the "tools for the job". There is supposed to be an amendment to the delivery spec but when that will be..................
fishtank wrote:
Well i would imagine when we are all in vans the idea may be to plan your delivery to enable delivery inside the existing spec.
Not everyone will be in vans.
Some of us are months/years away from that Utopia.
It can't be that difficult for the numpties to find a solution to the problem.
Remember when SD's were the jewel in the crown. Cheaper and more efficient than any of our competitors.
If you need an example of how s**t our managers really are, then SD's are a prime example.
Our office will all be in vans.
We are stuck in the middle of an industrial estate so there really is no other option.
Customers just love picking up their stuff from the middle of nowhere especially the pensioners.
There is nothing like a stroll through an industrial estate with your zimmer frame,it's probably RMs vision of the future.
NewPostieUK wrote:I have an LG and I'm not going to take a £13 phone out of my pocket. . . for anyone.
I still can't get my head round this. Why 'confirm' or otherwise, at all? Why can't they just see what's been delivered and what hasn't when you get back to the office?
Because if the information isn't back by 1.30 then the item shows up as a failure in the system.
Actually ccr - it's 1020 for 9 o clock specials and 1420 for 1300 specials.
They should supply PDAs then. Firstly, no need to confirm anything as all signed off on PDA and secondly, you can use the PDA to call your office (via the allowed freephone number and entering the office code).
Aprilaydee wrote:They should supply PDAs then. Firstly, no need to confirm anything as all signed off on PDA and secondly, you can use the PDA to call your office (via the allowed freephone number and entering the office code).
Well that would be great, if you're in an office with 10 staff and 10 PDAs April - not quite so simple when there is 100+ deliveries and 25 PDAs
dvbuk55 wrote:
Actually ccr - it's 1020 for 9 o clock specials and 1420 for 1300 specials.
I stand corrected.
Principle is the same though.
Well yes and no, you may be finished your delivery and back at the office by 1410 and therefore hand in the confirmation slip and any returned specials, but not by 1330 and no failure would have occurred. Some offices have a tendency to confirm all specials as delivered at 1330 in order to make the deadline.
Actually ccr - it's 1020 for 9 o clock specials and 1420 for 1300 specials.
I stand corrected.
Principle is the same though.
Well yes and no, you may be finished your delivery and back at the office by 1410 and therefore hand in the confirmation slip and any returned specials, but not by 1330 and no failure would have occurred. Some offices have a tendency to confirm all specials as delivered at 1330 in order to make the deadline.
And for those offices like ours, where nobody returns to the office, they just confirm it as delivered.
Actually ccr - it's 1020 for 9 o clock specials and 1420 for 1300 specials.
I stand corrected.
Principle is the same though.
Well yes and no, you may be finished your delivery and back at the office by 1410 and therefore hand in the confirmation slip and any returned specials, but not by 1330 and no failure would have occurred. Some offices have a tendency to confirm all specials as delivered at 1330 in order to make the deadline.
And for those offices like ours, where nobody returns to the office, they just confirm it as delivered.
That's my point! If they want you to do all this stuff, then they need to provide TFTJ i.e. PDAs or another communication device (star trek communicators maybe and then we can also beam ourselves back to the D.O...)
Aprilaydee wrote:They should supply PDAs then. Firstly, no need to confirm anything as all signed off on PDA and secondly, you can use the PDA to call your office (via the allowed freephone number and entering the office code).
Well that would be great, if you're in an office with 10 staff and 10 PDAs April - not quite so simple when there is 100+ deliveries and 25 PDAs
And anyway... my current office has 9 staff and 9 PDAs... 2 rounds aren't in vans though so we have 2 spares
Just realised we've got 2 fecking threads on this,was there any need?
Moving on from my moan,if i had to work in some of your offices i'd have to leave the job ffs.
Why the hell are the walkers still doing specials when there are PDA's for the vans,and why are you phoning or not phoning them as the case may be in ffs!
Specials should be on the vans end of,that's why the company invested the millions it did on the PDA's!
SDD should of sorted this as well.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been. My BFF Clash The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
Actually ccr - it's 1020 for 9 o clock specials and 1420 for 1300 specials.
I stand corrected.
Principle is the same though.
Well yes and no, you may be finished your delivery and back at the office by 1410 and therefore hand in the confirmation slip and any returned specials, but not by 1330 and no failure would have occurred. Some offices have a tendency to confirm all specials as delivered at 1330 in order to make the deadline.
And for those offices like ours, where nobody returns to the office, they just confirm it as delivered.
And if it isn't?
It gets unconfirmed the following morning when the item arrives back at the DO.
...Now that would be some achievement.
