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Management training...

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el_cartero
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Management training...

Post by el_cartero »

Are the managers are RM "trained" to be the way they are as they all seem to do the same things throughout the country?

And if they are trained to be bully and intimidate what is going to be done about it by the cwu and acas?

:no no
one day part timers will have the same right as full timers
Steviea34
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Re: Management training...

Post by Steviea34 »

el_cartero wrote:Are the managers are RM "trained" to be the way they are as they all seem to do the same things throughout the country?

And if they are trained to be bully and intimidate what is going to be done about it by the cwu and acas?

:no no
Didn't realize you had worked all over the country, like posties, good & bad in all area's i imagine :crazy:
el_cartero
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Re: Management training...

Post by el_cartero »

no seriously how are they trained .....

or do they just scam u out of overtime and not pay wen u work in other offices etc etc off there own back?

etc etc etc
one day part timers will have the same right as full timers
Steviea34
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Re: Management training...

Post by Steviea34 »

el_cartero wrote:no seriously how are they trained .....

or do they just scam u out of overtime and not pay wen u work in other offices etc etc off there own back?

etc etc etc
Depending on length of service mate would depend on the training they have received, over the last 10 years say,
new managers should have done the 12 weeks IOM's course, shortened to 8 i believe, this has now been replaced by
the deputy managers scheme, but dont forget we have the graduate scheme for university bods as well, time served
managers will have done numerous courses, normally on a day or so for various things. They used to do a lot of training
at COTON HSE & somewhere in CARDIFF but i think that is rarely used these days apart from Graduate Entrants :Very Happy
el_cartero
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Re: Management training...

Post by el_cartero »

can i have access to there training methods please and courses information.

link?
one day part timers will have the same right as full timers
Steviea34
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Re: Management training...

Post by Steviea34 »

el_cartero wrote:can i have access to there training methods please and courses information.

link?
You can get alot of course info on a computer system called PALMS, your DOM has access to this on his PC.

Not sure what other access you can get, but i think RM now do something called open learning, this is open
to all :Very Happy
el_cartero
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Re: Management training...

Post by el_cartero »

PALM? palm them off with bullcrap lol
one day part timers will have the same right as full timers
muddylab
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Re: Management training...

Post by muddylab »

Yes just like the apprentice scheme,being a postman is not a trade.This a government con to make people think they are doing something about vocational training,what makes a good manager is experience.Not coming from college/university and not knowing anything about the job,and how to get the best from the staff.The managment of Royal Mail only seem to think that we postman are as thick as two short planks.Like mushrooms feed them s**t and keep them in the the dark.THEY WOULD NOT SURVIVE ON DAY AS MANAGERS IN A PRIVATE FIRM
Donk
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Re: Management training...

Post by Donk »

Steviea34 wrote:
el_cartero wrote:can i have access to there training methods please and courses information.

link?
You can get alot of course info on a computer system called PALMS, your DOM has access to this on his PC.

Not sure what other access you can get, but i think RM now do something called open learning, this is open
to all :Very Happy

Anyone can get into PaLMS (Performance and Learning Management System) on their own computer at home. You just phone (Sheffield, I think) and ask them to activate your PaLMS account. Give 'em your details and they'll give you a username and password. Best to be logged on to your own computer as you speak to them though - if I remember right, they talk you through your initial log on.
viking
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Re: Management training...

Post by viking »

Having had "proper" training in management skills, albeit in retail, previous to working for RM as a postie. ONE of the rules we were taught was NEVER ASK ONE OF YOUR EMPLOYEES TO DO ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD NOT BE PREPARED TO DO YOURSELF....unspecified delivery spans and taking a cut in your wages for doing more work springs to mind. :crazy:
pinstripe
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Re: Management training...

Post by pinstripe »

viking wrote:Having had "proper" training in management skills, albeit in retail, previous to working for RM as a postie. ONE of the rules we were taught was NEVER ASK ONE OF YOUR EMPLOYEES TO DO ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD NOT BE PREPARED TO DO YOURSELF....unspecified delivery spans and taking a cut in your wages for doing more work springs to mind. :crazy:
Another was,
Never ask an employee to do something that you couldn't do. In another industry (probably most outside RM), management training includes all aspects of their employees jobs. The reason, how could they train, motivate or monitor staff performance if they didn't know exactly what they did. Seems so simple, doesn't it.
stokes11eg
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Re: Management training...

Post by stokes11eg »

:Very Happy Not kidding here. I am the proud owner of a certificate stating that I had passed their Management training--but I never went on any course! I can only assume it was meany for someone else with the same name, but I've had it 7 years now!