BETTER GET A PLAN B SORTED BILLY AND DAVE

[jack straw]

Their plan B will be 'get out quick while the s**t hits the fan'. They must be the most dire pair in the union movement.

[Big Daz]

What happens in a no vote and CWU cant achive any changes to the big issues?


What then?

Were you ever in the forces BD? A plan works fine until the first shot is fired and then you have to wing it. What if? There are a million combinations of what ifs, who can say what any individual unit is going to do if the vote is no. The least we can expect is for the union to take up the challenge to FIND a Plan B or C or D at the very least one that IS acceptable to the membership.

TBH I wonder what individual units are going to do if the vote is a YES.

Forces, good go no man!! Previous generations have been. Got some fantastic photos of my grandfather in his homeguard days. I even got the service record of his father in law from WW1

Straight to RML from school, boy to man in a RML D.O

Youve slightly not got my point, what happens if a plan that is acceptable to the membership does not come in to existence?

Dave and his team go to RML and say our mbrs don't ike this and they want that changed and RML say NO!!!!

What then, make the best of a bad situation or strike?

What happens if we strike and still do not get any concessions from RML.

[postghost]

There is no plan B

There is ALWAYS a plan B

[fishtank]

what happens if a plan that is acceptable to the membership does not come in to existence?

Dave and his team go to RML and say our mbrs don't ike this and they want that changed and RML say NO!!!!

Then i would suggest Daz that RML will have to attempt to bring in the biggest changes in the history of the industry without the backing of it's staff.
Now does that sound feasible?
It is doubtful whether these changes will work WITH the members behind them,almost impossible without them.
So who do you think fears a NO vote the most?
Remember many of us have been dealing with EA and IA and out of control management for so long now it holds little fear for us.
Don't be scared of the boogeyman,someone just made him up to keep little boys in their beds at night.

[Carnoustie]

Don't be scared of the boogeyman,someone just made him up to keep little boys in their beds at night.

Was that "someone" wearing a black robe with a white collar, and a catholic ?

[DirtyHarry]

There is no plan B

Not very bright, are they?

I wonder, in days of old, when Rome was young, well, youngish, how far Caesar would have got if he'd never had a plan B, in case plan A fell flat on it's arse?

[axeman]

It has been extended to ensure those stuck abroad on holiday are able to complete their ballot paper. Nothing to do with the 'vote not going their way'.

Come on ''tonic'' you can do better than that or is your master stuck for words ?, as it's not going quite to plan albeit a cunning plan (as baldrick would say) that no one has fallen for from royal fail and the joined at the hip ward & co and his fellow conspirators

You'll have me in hysterics chum.

Not quite your usual repartie ''night tonic' whats up feeling a bit glum as it's not going your way eh buddy ??

[smarterdarter]

What happens in a no vote and CWU cant achive any changes to the big issues?


What then?

Then my friend the Union aint worth SH1T!!!

[Night Tonic]

There is no plan B as Dave has said many times, unless you count dole money, and as usual a load of presumptive nonsense as to the outcome. Wait and see. I've actually put a bet on at the bookies and looking forward to collecting my winnings next week.

[BELIAL]

There is no plan B as Dave has said many times, unless you count dole money, and as usual a load of presumptive nonsense as to the outcome. Wait and see. I've actually put a bet on at the bookies and looking forward to collecting my winnings next week.

Well you ,Dave and Maggie may well end up with egg on your feaces ,and as a punter your track record is less than good

[Postbot]

PLAN B

Keep extending the ballot until we get a YES vote...

[Night Tonic]

I can just see the headlines, Postal Workers turn down £1000 bonus. Like anyone would give that the time of day when everyone else has pay freezes. I don't like Ward as you know but at least hes a realist. All that will happen is we'll end up sold off, pension stuffed and any deals thrown out with it. No brainer that one.

[mr deeds]

I can just see the headlines, Postal Workers turn down £1000 bonus. Like anyone would give that the time of day when everyone else has pay freezes. I don't like Ward as you know but at least hes a realist. All that will happen is we'll end up sold off, pension stuffed and any deals thrown out with it. No brainer that one.

1000 linked to jumping through so many hoops it's impossible to get(some not until 2012) and £400 due anyway in 8 weeks

[DirtyHarry]

I can just see the headlines, Postal Workers turn down £1000 bonus. Like anyone would give that the time of day when everyone else has pay freezes. I don't like Ward as you know but at least hes a realist. All that will happen is we'll end up sold off, pension stuffed and any deals thrown out with it. No brainer that one.

We have severe shortages of staff, workloads that put navvies to shame, and a senior management "team" bereft of any common sense.
Even if this agreement is given the green light by the terminally bonkers, the number of postal workers who will be able to do what will be necessary to achieve that "£1000 bonus" will be minimal, very minimal.
A bonus for us, is hard-earned, very hard-earned. A bonus for the likes of Tolhurst and Higson, well, even the current moron of the year could do, what little those two do, to achieve their bonus, which is way too much more than a hard-grafting postal worker will ever see in a month of Sundays.

[mr deeds]

There is no plan B as Dave has said many times, unless you count dole money, and as usual a load of presumptive nonsense as to the outcome. Wait and see. I've actually put a bet on at the bookies and looking forward to collecting my winnings next week.

we may count our dole money and wonder why we paid our subs but f/t release for reps will go and they can always walk the streets for us and see how sh*t they have defended the membership that did not cave in but were led to the slaughter from union hq in there ivory towers