So in affect, the weak offices get less than the strong office and our union advocates this !! This is supposed to be a UNION, where evryone gains or fails together..i.e UNION !! To let the weak fall by the wayside is an absolute disgrace, we all should get the same treatment from our employers and union, no matter how strong ( or weak) each individual offices are !! Ive always supported my union and stood up for the so called "weak" amongst us but why should I bother in future, when I see statements like that above
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Election Material-Agreement Ignored
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the dragon
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Re: Election Material-Agreement Ignored
was always taught that in Royal Mail your either a walk over office or your a stand up for yourself office. The ones who stand up for themselves invariably get the best deals the ones who dont get attacked : quote ; Dingo
So in affect, the weak offices get less than the strong office and our union advocates this !! This is supposed to be a UNION, where evryone gains or fails together..i.e UNION !! To let the weak fall by the wayside is an absolute disgrace, we all should get the same treatment from our employers and union, no matter how strong ( or weak) each individual offices are !! Ive always supported my union and stood up for the so called "weak" amongst us but why should I bother in future, when I see statements like that above
So in affect, the weak offices get less than the strong office and our union advocates this !! This is supposed to be a UNION, where evryone gains or fails together..i.e UNION !! To let the weak fall by the wayside is an absolute disgrace, we all should get the same treatment from our employers and union, no matter how strong ( or weak) each individual offices are !! Ive always supported my union and stood up for the so called "weak" amongst us but why should I bother in future, when I see statements like that above
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spilie
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Re: Election Material-Agreement Ignored
nice comments dingo you want a shovel................. 
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spiderman
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: Election Material-Agreement Ignored
Nope not per area - But per Office looking at some posts and looking at the agreement.spiderman wrote:5p per card... we only got 3p. Don't tell me its different pay rate per areaStraight4ward wrote:Delivered poll cards last week. Paid this week - on time, in full - no problem. 5p per card.
What's the issue?
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Re: Election Material-Agreement Ignored
Actually this election business could be a blessing in disguise - instead of us just surmising that RM haven't moved one jot from their previous modus operandi we now have it at first hand - Oh and where is Roger Poole in all this - or is it one of those things that he doesn't deal with - I just bet we'll find a whole host of things ACAS don't deal with if this goes through.
We all know who has security of tenure for the next three years with a nice comfortable berth, no extra work and a cosy relationship with Royal Mail.
We all know who has security of tenure for the next three years with a nice comfortable berth, no extra work and a cosy relationship with Royal Mail.
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Re: Election Material-Agreement Ignored
"The wording of the agreement is the responsibility of the parties not Acas."
Peter Harwood
Chief Conciliator, ACAS.
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music4essex
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Re: Election Material-Agreement Ignored
Spiderman lucky you gettting paid
In our office our dom is refusing to pay for delivery of poll cards even though he has been shown the agreement
the Area rep has been shown the agreement, This agreement was taken in by my self not a union rep just some one who thinks fairness should avail.
Now we could have claimed O/T but I am hoping that after next week we may have some conclusion in getting paid for what we have already delivered, you cannot get paid twice and I am hoping by getting paid by the correct rate will be more then O/T.
As for what Dingo says about uping the ante in maybe striking sorry you won't get that suppport in our office again.
It seems like a dog eat dog world and the weaker offices which i guess is mine will be shafted all the time.
I come on this site for information and support and cannot see what difference this new agreement will be in any benefit in our office, Even though we have a rep all be it just came on board the last few months he gets hardly any support further up the union line and yet he is suppose to look after our interests.
Will all the disparity between various offices it's no wonder we are at logger heads with RM and sometimes our union and amongst ourselves.
I thank the one's that have helped me out on here the last few months being on here.
I just hope next week brings something positive from Bob Gibson or god help us for the future if this little blip(Election material) has anything to go by
Essex mum
In our office our dom is refusing to pay for delivery of poll cards even though he has been shown the agreement
the Area rep has been shown the agreement, This agreement was taken in by my self not a union rep just some one who thinks fairness should avail.
Now we could have claimed O/T but I am hoping that after next week we may have some conclusion in getting paid for what we have already delivered, you cannot get paid twice and I am hoping by getting paid by the correct rate will be more then O/T.
As for what Dingo says about uping the ante in maybe striking sorry you won't get that suppport in our office again.
It seems like a dog eat dog world and the weaker offices which i guess is mine will be shafted all the time.
I come on this site for information and support and cannot see what difference this new agreement will be in any benefit in our office, Even though we have a rep all be it just came on board the last few months he gets hardly any support further up the union line and yet he is suppose to look after our interests.
Will all the disparity between various offices it's no wonder we are at logger heads with RM and sometimes our union and amongst ourselves.
I thank the one's that have helped me out on here the last few months being on here.
I just hope next week brings something positive from Bob Gibson or god help us for the future if this little blip(Election material) has anything to go by
Essex mum
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gb93
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Re: Election Material-Agreement Ignored
Wise words Essex Mum, i believe we may share the same view of the future for "weak offices" throughout the country.
I for sure hope i am wrong and the future is a bright new world in RM as we are kept being told by our strong leaders.
But the little "Blip" doesnt bode well in my mind.
I for sure hope i am wrong and the future is a bright new world in RM as we are kept being told by our strong leaders.
But the little "Blip" doesnt bode well in my mind.
This ain't no baseball game, you get only one chance and you blew it.
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POSTMAN
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Re: Election Material-Agreement Ignored
Should of been sorted in a flash!the Area rep has been shown the agreement
There will be many many more after you as well which is a shame,the new relationship is bollox,we will be very busy on RMC no doubt after 23rd April.I thank the one's that have helped me out on here the last few months being on here.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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demon
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Re: Election Material-Agreement Ignored
how much do we get payed for polling cards
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: Election Material-Agreement Ignored
According to the National agreement each office varies -demon wrote:how much do we get payed for polling cards
Minimum 3p (my office)
Maximum 6.8p although there are rumours of some getting even more than that. For your office you would need to check back on old pay chits.
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tiggle
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Re: Election Material-Agreement Ignored
spiderman wrote:5p per card... we only got 3p. Don't tell me its different pay rate per areaStraight4ward wrote:Delivered poll cards last week. Paid this week - on time, in full - no problem. 5p per card.
What's the issue?
must be, we're getting nowt.
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music4essex
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Re: Election Material-Agreement Ignored
"Should of been sorted in a flash! " By Area Rep
We'll you would have thought that,
but he never( So I was lost in what to do next) That is why I came back on here for more help.
I am sure even if we get told they have to pay us RM, probably still have to fight for it.
Still need to be positive for the run in, over the next couple of months, I am sure you guys on here will be fed up seeing my name on here :asking for help and advice
Essex mum
We'll you would have thought that,
but he never( So I was lost in what to do next) That is why I came back on here for more help.
I am sure even if we get told they have to pay us RM, probably still have to fight for it.
Still need to be positive for the run in, over the next couple of months, I am sure you guys on here will be fed up seeing my name on here :asking for help and advice
Essex mum
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dvbuk55
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Re: Election Material-Agreement Ignored
Somebody has gone mighty quiet on this issue - have the hawks eaten the doves or the doves flown away? Bloody nuisances these birds, they have a tendency to sh1t on you.
If the agreement is there why is it being ignored and is this a sign of things to come.
If the agreement is there why is it being ignored and is this a sign of things to come.
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POSTMAN
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Na,keep 'em coming,we've got nothing else to do,you seen the telly shite theses days.music4essex wrote:
Still need to be positive for the run in, over the next couple of months, I am sure you guys on here will be fed up seeing my name on here :asking for help and advice![]()
Essex mum
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.