Election Material-Agreement Ignored

[fishtank]

Subject: Election Material

Peter

I have one simple request as I am now fed up with all the scurrilous interpretations that are being banded about regarding the national agreement that was reached between Royal Mail and the CWU in 2005.

The so called agreement that has been banded about by Royal Mail is nothing short of a disgrace – it is not the document that was agreed.
I will yet again produce for all to see the words that were agreed, and subsequently cleared with the Postal Executive they are simple and to the point and can only be interpreted in one way.

Scope of this Agreement
This agreement covers all addressed and un-addressed free election communications marked “ELECTION COMMUNICATION” and Poll Cards (excluding Proxy Poll Cards). It replaces all previous national and / or local agreements covering the delivery of election materials and poll cards from the date of this agreement.
The national agreement clearly states that poll cards will be paid for, except proxy poll cards.

The question that has to be answered is - Are you going to honour the national agreement?

Bob Gibson
CWU Assistant Secretary - Outdoor

[gb93]

"Are you going to honour the National Agreement"

RM response maybe ?. Why we never have done in the past so why should we start now.

So much for new era of trust, and as a side thought funny way of RM to encourage a yes vote

[belle smith]

Is your DOM trying to not pay you's for election material fishtank?
out of curiosity were did you get this letter from?

[fishtank]

Is your DOM trying to not pay you's for election material fishtank?
out of curiosity were did you get this letter from?

Some managers are playing games with the poll cards..
This is an email from Bob Gibson to Peter Walls,Dale haddon,Dale Lang,Peter Ashford,Paul Tolhurst and Mark Higson.
It was sent on thursday evening.
Maybe dingo can fill us in on any replies.

[dvbuk55]

Is your DOM trying to not pay you's for election material fishtank?
out of curiosity were did you get this letter from?

Some managers are playing games with the poll cards..
This is an email from Bob Gibson to Peter Walls,Dale haddon,Dale Lang,Peter Ashford,Paul Tolhurst and Mark Higson.
It was sent on thursday evening.
Maybe dingo can fill us in on any replies.

Whatever his answer is it is bound to be a plus value for a yes vote instead of the simple truth.

[Straight4ward]

Delivered poll cards last week. Paid this week - on time, in full - no problem. 5p per card.

What's the issue?

[POSTMAN]

The question that has to be answered is - Are you going to honour the national agreement?

[Martin Walsh]

You do have such a big chip on your shouldar dvbuk , its always someone elses thought in your world.

For the record there has been a lot of debate and argument over the national agreement. It would seem that some senior managers who dont like the new national agreement are causing mischief.

Johnathan Powell who is a senior Royal Mail manager who negotiated the door to door agreement with Bob Gibson is wrong and trying to claim the agreement does not state the following THIS AGREEMENT COVERS ALL ADDRESSED AND UN ADDRESSED FREE ELECTION COMMUNICATION AND POLL CARDS (EXCLUDING PROXY POLL CARDS ). IT REPLACES ALL PREVIOUS NATIONAL /LOCAL AGREEMENTS COVERING THE DELIVERY OF ELECTION MATERIALS AND POLL CARDS.

Why well Jon Powell was referring to a previous draft of the agreement and not the one which was agreed.

Royal Mail have now recieved all the full documentation in a zip file regarding the national agreement as Peter Walls was not in the industry when the national agreement was agreed.

Royal Mail want to re-negotiate the national agreement after the election and they did try and put it in workload but only offered a £1 per week.

Bob is awaiting confirmation that Royal Mail will abide by the national agreement in full.

To say temperatures are high would be an understatement.

Put it this way unless Royal Mail accept that the national agreement is the one the union is quoting and then abides by its full terms then lets just say some of you who moan a lot will have to step up to the plate and force them to.

Watch this space. You may need to put your money where your mouth is. This is serious.

[Stormproof]

To say temperatures are high would be an understatement.

Put it this way unless Royal Mail accept that the national agreement is the one the union is quoting and then abides by its full terms then lets just say some of you who moan a lot will have to step up to the plate and force them to.

Watch this space. You may need to put your money where your mouth is. This is serious.

As we all know leopards don't change their spots and HQ said there would be trust after the 'talks'

[General Mannerheim]

Watch this space. You may need to put your money where your mouth is. This is serious.dingo

What again?

[ldsposti]

Hi is there a national agreement on election material if so can we download a copy ?

[dvbuk55]

You do have such a big chip on your shouldar dvbuk , its always someone elses thought in your world.

For the record there has been a lot of debate and argument over the national agreement. It would seem that some senior managers who dont like the new national agreement are causing mischief.

Johnathan Powell who is a senior Royal Mail manager who negotiated the door to door agreement with Bob Gibson is wrong and trying to claim the agreement does not state the following THIS AGREEMENT COVERS ALL ADDRESSED AND UN ADDRESSED FREE ELECTION COMMUNICATION AND POLL CARDS (EXCLUDING PROXY POLL CARDS ). IT REPLACES ALL PREVIOUS NATIONAL /LOCAL AGREEMENTS COVERING THE DELIVERY OF ELECTION MATERIALS AND POLL CARDS.

Why well Jon Powell was referring to a previous draft of the agreement and not the one which was agreed.

Royal Mail have now recieved all the full documentation in a zip file regarding the national agreement as Peter Walls was not in the industry when the national agreement was agreed.

Royal Mail want to re-negotiate the national agreement after the election and they did try and put it in workload but only offered a £1 per week.

Bob is awaiting confirmation that Royal Mail will abide by the national agreement in full.

To say temperatures are high would be an understatement.

Put it this way unless Royal Mail accept that the national agreement is the one the union is quoting and then abides by its full terms then lets just say some of you who moan a lot will have to step up to the plate and force them to.

Watch this space. You may need to put your money where your mouth is. This is serious.

Better a big chip than a big ego dingo.

Without even getting past the ballot the agreements of the past aren't even being honoured - maybe its time you and yours stood up to the plate and put your money where your mouth is and backed the membership for a change. Nothings changed and nothing will change, RM pat you guys on the head and away you go happy as larry.

[POSTMAN]

Hi is there a national agreement on election material if so can we download a copy ?

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 55#p159312" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Wouldn't bother though,it's worth diddley squat!

[dvbuk55]

Hi is there a national agreement on election material if so can we download a copy ?

Apparently it's just being clarified, I mean there is one but........................

[POSTMAN]

Bob is awaiting confirmation that Royal Mail will abide by the national agreement in full.

To be fair dingo,and not a dig at you,but re London Briefing,all Bob had to do was 'shove the agreement under their noses' yes?