Anyone Got Their Ballot Papers?

[welshy808]

Five days later and still not one single ballot paper in our office.

I wonder if it has anything to do with our DOM passing on that we are likely to vote NO,
or is it just down to the are we live in

[Godric]

recieved mine today and it was in the pillar box for 8.30am with 2 crosses on NO

[mucker]

got mine this afternoon.first thing that caught my eye was the envolope "INPORTANT INFORMTION ENCLOSED"really, i think we have all worked our ballot papers were due,and guessed what it would be

the leaflet(D2D) reminds me of the crap you get on you door mat when it's election time.which i chuck in the bin.

the bit saying VOTE YES a fair deal for you,customers and the company made me

anyway still a big fat NOfrom the old Mucker.........

[dvbuk55]

got mine this afternoon.first thing that caught my eye was the envolope "INPORTANT INFORMTION ENCLOSED"really, i think we have all worked our ballot papers were due,and guessed what it would be

the leaflet(D2D) reminds me of the crap you get on you door mat when it's election time.which i chuck in the bin.

the bit saying VOTE YES a fair deal for you,customers and the company made me

anyway still a big fat NOfrom the old Mucker.........

You just keep bouncin' back mucker

[Exrep]

Received today along with the DVD big X in the NO box and posted off

[Stormproof]

Got mine aswell, just pulled out the ballot paper/envelope and left the shite in the envelope. 2 X in the NO boxes

[mucker]

got mine this afternoon.first thing that caught my eye was the envolope "INPORTANT INFORMTION ENCLOSED"really, i think we have all worked our ballot papers were due,and guessed what it would be

the leaflet(D2D) reminds me of the crap you get on you door mat when it's election time.which i chuck in the bin.

the bit saying VOTE YES a fair deal for you,customers and the company made me

anyway still a big fat NOfrom the old Mucker.........

You just keep bouncin' back mucker

they never stop you know

[dvbuk55]

got mine this afternoon.first thing that caught my eye was the envolope "INPORTANT INFORMTION ENCLOSED"really, i think we have all worked our ballot papers were due,and guessed what it would be

the leaflet(D2D) reminds me of the crap you get on you door mat when it's election time.which i chuck in the bin.

the bit saying VOTE YES a fair deal for you,customers and the company made me

anyway still a big fat NOfrom the old Mucker.........

You just keep bouncin' back mucker

they never stop you know

For gods sake mucker I'm already on heart and blood pressure pills - I think sometimes I'm going to keel over so if after you've posted I start to reply and it suddenly peters out ................................................................................ that's where I'll be

[el_cartero]

they intercepted the test letters - whos to say they wont intercept your votes and rub out ur no vote for a yes.

This company has proved it will go to great lengths to get what it wants.

wouldnt be surprised if mandelsons mi5 was involved .

[BELIAL]

To quote GCHQ ,and if you would like to apply " you'd be surprised at what we do"

[labbloke]

West Midlands got theirs today and mine has been promptly sent off with the appropriate marks in the NO boxes.

Had to wonder how fair is an election though when even the ballot paper itself is advising you to vote yes?

I seem to remember that a union last year was fined nearly £100,000 for having a letter in with the ballot papers from their own executive, slagging off one of the choices.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

I seem to remember that a union last year was fined nearly £100,000 for having a letter in with the ballot papers from their own executive, slagging off one of the choices.

Different type of ballot and therefore different Laws, rulings and rules apply apparently.

This vote falls under the non-statutory type ballot. http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/ ... /DG_179203" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Trade union ballots


All trade unions have systems to involve their members in decision-making. These can involve the holding of ballots and elections to measure opinion among members. In some cases trade unions are required by law to ballot their members. The result of the ballot decides what happens.

Statutory ballots

There are three circumstances where the law says that a trade union must ballot all of its members. These are:

in advance of a merger with another trade union
elections to fill senior positions within the trade union
to start up and continue a political fund

In addition, a trade union wishing to call industrial action must ballot all the members it is thinking of asking to take part in the action.

These ballots are called statutory ballots and must always be conducted by post. This means that trade union members will be sent a ballot form and, as it is a secret ballot, instructed to answer the questions by marking one or more boxes on the voting paper.

Merger ballots

Merger ballots are held when two or more trade unions combine into a single new trade union (an amalgamation) or one trade union transfers its members, assets and legal obligations to another. This is known as a transfer of engagements.

An amalgamation can only take place if there has been a ballot of the members of each trade union and the members of each trade union have voted in favour of the amalgamation.

A transfer of engagements can take place only if the members of the trade union transferring its engagements have voted in favour of the transfer.

Elections for senior positions

With a few exceptions, there must be elections by ballot for the following positions in a trade union:

member of the executive
other positions where the person holding the post is automatically a member of the executive
president
general secretary


Political fund ballots

Some trade unions have a political fund, from which the trade union may make donations to political parties or otherwise spend money on political objects. Political funds are subject to special regulation.

Political fund ballots are held to decide whether a trade union's members wish to start a political fund. The trade union must hold a further political fund ballot at least every ten years to ask its members if they want the trade union to continue running a political fund. This is sometimes called a 'review ballot'.

Industrial action ballots

Industrial action ballots are held to decide if members of a trade union wish to take industrial action over a dispute with their employer (eg a strike). The trade union must only ballot the members it is thinking of asking to take part in the industrial action.

The following statement must appear on every voting paper:

"If you take part in a strike or other industrial action, you may be in breach of your contract of employment. However, if you are dismissed for taking part in strike or other industrial action which is called officially and is otherwise lawful, the dismissal will be unfair if it takes place fewer than twelve weeks after you started taking part in the action, and depending on the circumstances may be unfair if it takes place later."

If there is majority support for industrial action, the action must begin within four weeks of the ballot (or eight weeks if the trade union and employer agree to an extension).

Non-statutory ballots

A non-statutory ballot is any ballot held in which a trade union asks its members to vote on an issue, other than the four types of statutory ballot. A trade union's rules may require it, or give it the option to, decide a particular issue by ballot. Voting in a ballot of this kind must be conducted in accordance with its rules.

[MinisterofCucumber]

Tbt wrote:

"A non-statutory ballot is any ballot held in which a trade union asks its members to vote on an issue, other than the four types of statutory ballot. A trade union's rules may require it, or give it the option to, decide a particular issue by ballot. Voting in a ballot of this kind must be conducted in accordance with its rules."

Does this mean that that any complaints about the ballot should be made to the certification officer?

http://www.certoffice.org/pages/index.cfm?pageID=home" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What are the rules of this ballot?

Who will be counting the votes?

[Big Daz]

Tbt wrote:

"A non-statutory ballot is any ballot held in which a trade union asks its members to vote on an issue, other than the four types of statutory ballot. A trade union's rules may require it, or give it the option to, decide a particular issue by ballot. Voting in a ballot of this kind must be conducted in accordance with its rules."

Does this mean that that any complaints about the ballot should be made to the certification officer?

http://www.certoffice.org/pages/index.cfm?pageID=home" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What are the rules of this ballot?

Who will be counting the votes?

Yes you can complain to the ballot company, if you think they have done some thing wrong or you can complain to Tony Kerns SDGS

[mailmonkey]

Another Day!

Still no sign of the feckin papers.