Delivery of fascist election material?

[POSTMAN]

The point of the conscience clause seems to keep getting missed in theses threads.
The clause was bought in because our colleagues we're attacked,spat at abused ect for delivering them.

[Lounge Lizard]

The point of the conscience clause seems to keep getting missed in theses threads.
The clause was bought in because our colleagues we're attacked,spat at abused ect for delivering them.

I have been abused when delivering Door To Doors, but I still have to do them.

[BELIAL]

Anybody had any Paedophile Promotion Party leaflets to deliver yet?

[POSTMAN]

The point of the conscience clause seems to keep getting missed in theses threads.
The clause was bought in because our colleagues we're attacked,spat at abused ect for delivering them.

I have been abused when delivering Door To Doors, but I still have to do them.

Come on you know it's different.

[Donk]

The accepted term and one I prefer is Black, or Afro-Caribbean.

With you all the way there.

Although, it does make me wonder about just who it is that accepts the term. I've just done watching an american programme on TV where a black doctor referred to a black patient as a "woman of colour." Pardon?

Maybe I'll ask our Diversity Manager (do all offices have them?) ....then again, maybe not considering some of the "information" that has come out of that person's office.

[rhino49]

The point of the conscience clause seems to keep getting missed in theses threads.
The clause was bought in because our colleagues we're attacked,spat at abused ect for delivering them.

...by people whose views are no doubt just as extreme as the BNP's - so if that happens, refuse to deliver anything to those addresses and show them how free a democracy we have :)

[clashcityrocker]

By refusing to deliver the leaflets of any political party you are not censoring anyone's views or helping other parties, because no-one is saying those leaflets wil not be delivered, just that you are not prepared to deliver them yourself.
It isn't being a fascist to say - I find those views abhorrent. I am not prepared to distribute them.Let someone else do it.
And as for the BNP being a lawful party etc etc - Why were they legally obliged to change their constitution?

[Tman]

It isn't being a fascist to say - I find those views abhorrent. I am not prepared to distribute them.Let someone else do it.

No, not fascist, just having a general lack of understanding of how such acts are viewed by "the public"
Some postie in Guildford could say the same about Labour pamphlets, or some Glaswegian from Bar Head about Tory rubbish, and I'm sure that would go down really well with the senders.
As if RM staff have any say in what gets posted and delivered...

[Acca Dacca]

The BNP have the right to have the same equality as any other political party but I have the right to not deliver it for them. Someone else can.

Your still technically being paid by them.

[savo]

Lots of fascists on the Left as well, the likes of galloway who "get into bed" with Islamic fundamentalists..... the left turn a blind eye to womens rights, homophobia etc in these cases.

[Lounge Lizard]

The point of the conscience clause seems to keep getting missed in theses threads.
The clause was bought in because our colleagues we're attacked,spat at abused ect for delivering them.

I have been abused when delivering Door To Doors, but I still have to do them.

Come on you know it's different.

Yes, more money for election leaflets.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

how typically depressing, the left trying to censor things they don't agree with! you want to try democracy, you never know it might grow on you!

What so refusing Conscientious Objectors the right to vote, when they refuse to serve in the "National Service" is a Democratic Policy - One of the BNP ones from their Manifesto for the Euro Elections.

Lets hope they have changed that otherwise IMHo they cannot be truly considered as a party with Democratic credentials.

you misunderstood, I'm not saying the bnp are democratic (far from it) just that in a democratic society everybody's views should be heard, however repellent, be that of the left or right. Otherwise how can we judge them?

Well I partly agree with that all recognised Political Parties in a democracy should have freedom of speech, as long as that speech does not promote hate, violent action or restrict others rights to hold political views which are different to theirs.

If you want to be a Political Party in a Democratic society then you have to accept that other people have different views and that you cannot restrict their right to vote based solely on that.

[mdm]

how typically depressing, the left trying to censor things they don't agree with! you want to try democracy, you never know it might grow on you!

What so refusing Conscientious Objectors the right to vote, when they refuse to serve in the "National Service" is a Democratic Policy - One of the BNP ones from their Manifesto for the Euro Elections.

Lets hope they have changed that otherwise IMHo they cannot be truly considered as a party with Democratic credentials.

you misunderstood, I'm not saying the bnp are democratic (far from it) just that in a democratic society everybody's views should be heard, however repellent, be that of the left or right. Otherwise how can we judge them?

Well I partly agree with that all recognised Political Parties in a democracy should have freedom of speech, as long as that speech does not promote hate, violent action or restrict others rights to hold political views which are different to theirs.

If you want to be a Political Party in a Democratic society then you have to accept that other people have different views and that you cannot restrict their right to vote based solely on that.

Yes that is what I've been saying (in a roundabout way), its just that in my experience, working with some and knowing some, people on the left have told me they want the bnp and its ideology banned. When i point out people views should be heard in a democracy, they just sneer and call me a fascist! The irony is lost on them. Before anyone ask, no i hold no brief for the bnp or any other extremists left or right. Sometimes I just despair of the human race.

[waitaminute]

Hitler was a postman employed by the goverment.

[fishtank]

i always refuse to handle the bnp leaflets and have already told my manager that i will be opting out this time as well.

as far as i am aware you can still refuse, as long as they are not addresed

That is your choice obviously, we have a person in our office refusing also, no problems, he will have to do a
different delivery for a few days (RIGHTLY SO)whilst someone else delivers them on you walk -
problem solved - SIMPLES

Agreed it is a major moral problem for some people but a minor operational problem to solve so why some jump on the "freedom of speech" bandwagon is beyond me.
If some don't want to deliver it and i am one the business does not grind to a halt.
It so happens i didn't have to worry this time as they are not on the list we have anyway.