Is this a deal to protect FT jobs in London.

[DGP1]

Looking at the figures it would seem that last year NI was 60:40 (and since then my office has lost another 5 FT).

[BELIAL]

50/50 in my office, anybody notice a pattern emerging?

[Glenno]

Knit one pearl one

[drb]

50/50 in my office, anybody notice a pattern emerging?

The Interim agreement,The Way Forward,and the Stoke Agreement should NOT of allowed that. The Interim Agreement still holds the field.Get your rep on it as well as your area rep

[BELIAL]

50/50 in my office, anybody notice a pattern emerging?

The Interim agreement,The Way Forward,and the Stoke Agreement should NOT of allowed that. The Interim Agreement still holds the field.Get your rep on it as well as your area rep

Ah you mean my area rep who was part of the national negotiating team ! Yes he is fully aware of the situation and has been for at least three years, can't wait till he springs into action

[BELIAL]

Knit one pearl one

Just don't drop one

[drb]

Ah you mean my area rep who was part of the national negotiating team ! Yes he is fully aware of the situation and has been for at least three years, can't wait till he springs into action

Get yourself a commitee,get yourself to your AGM.

[BELIAL]

Ah you mean my area rep who was part of the national negotiating team ! Yes he is fully aware of the situation and has been for at least three years, can't wait till he springs into action

Get yourself a commitee,get yourself to your AGM.

Already done ,but good advice

[anna]

sorry late reply - thanks Dingo. But now it seems even more that from what info there is this is not "a deal to protect full time jobs" nor any help towards making up part-time to full time, which some people have been waiting for, for years. In fact it seems quite the opposite?

[Martin Walsh]

sorry late reply - thanks Dingo. But now it seems even more that from what info there is this is not "a deal to protect full time jobs" nor any help towards making up part-time to full time, which some people have been waiting for, for years. In fact it seems quite the opposite?

The problem we have Anna is that more of our IPS has been automated ,in some offices that now exceeds 80% of total workload. At the moment this then needs to be prepped so time is still needed to perform this work. However when walk sequenceing is at your office then 40% of your workload may not arrive until as late as 10 in the morning. That work will not even be in your office unless you have a walk sequencing machine in your office so you will not have any manual letters to IPS. Walk sequencing aims to save 19 mins per 1000 letters per walk. But the biggest impact is that your office will only have 60% of the workload in your office until the reamining 40% has been seqeuenced and that does not start till 0600 and each batch ( appox 12 walks ) has to have 3 passes on the machine which slows down the process as the WSM has to be manually cleared.

In other countries ie Holland and Germany they do not have a two way split ie 60% on the first wave (mdt 0600 ) and 40% on the second way ( 0600 -1000 ) and wait till all 100% is ready before they start walk sequencing which has resulted in 80 % of the staff now being part timers in those countries. The CWU have now a guarntnee that the staffing levels will be around 75 % full times and that the workplan must deliver this and that they will be reviews to ensure that this is actually happening.

Yes of course we want more full time jobs but the rut started on the amount of part time jobs when we had two deliveries when most offices didt stream the work and took it all on the first delivery and that allowed managment to cut a load of second deliveries and then bought part timers into deliveries. I think overall that 75 -25 is not a bad figure given the fact that automation is coming and door to door into workload is essential to protecting full time jobs.

[janitor]

The reason RM gave for scrapping the second delivery was, that they could get all mail to the DOs in time to go out on the first delivery, so a second delivery was uneconomical, due to the fact most second deliveries had most times 2 or 3 letters. So now with the advent of new machinery and modernisation, this is no longer so as up to 40% of the mail will not arrive till later, does it not make sense to reintroduce the second delivery.

[belle smith]

The reason RM gave for scrapping the second delivery was, that they could get all mail to the DOs in time to go out on the first delivery, so a second delivery was uneconomical, due to the fact most second deliveries had most times 2 or 3 letters. So now with the advent of new machinery and modernisation, this is no longer so as up to 40% of the mail will not arrive till later, does it not make sense to reintroduce the second delivery.

Sounds good to me, although i accept it would be nigh on impossable to persuade RM.

[Steviea34]

The reason RM gave for scrapping the second delivery was, that they could get all mail to the DOs in time to go out on the first delivery, so a second delivery was uneconomical, due to the fact most second deliveries had most times 2 or 3 letters. So now with the advent of new machinery and modernisation, this is no longer so as up to 40% of the mail will not arrive till later, does it not make sense to reintroduce the second delivery.

Sounds good to me, although i accept it would be nigh on impossable to persuade RM.

Surely we will all be going out later anyway, so lets just call the one delivery the second delivery, then at least the business can say
its driving up quality with the re-introduction of second dels

[Glenno]

Knit one pearl one

Just don't drop one

UNLIKE CWU hq you mean (B)

[BELIAL]

The problem we have Anna is that more of our IPS has been automated ,in some offices that now exceeds 80% of total workload. At the moment this then needs to be prepped so time is still needed to perform this work

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Time will always be needed to prep this work , walk sequencing does not reduce IPS it increases it.

However when walk sequenceing is at your office then 40% of your workload may not arrive until as late as 10 in the morning.

Irrelevant to the question of FT/PT ratios ,that is just a start time issue.

That work will not even be in your office unless you have a walk sequencing machine in your office so you will not have any manual letters to IPS.

Got to be a typo , not even Higson would have the neck to try that one on

Walk sequencing aims to save 19 mins per 1000 letters per walk.

Nuff said

But the biggest impact is that your office will only have 60% of the workload in your office until the reamining 40% has been seqeuenced and that does not start till 0600 and each batch ( appox 12 walks ) has to have 3 passes on the machine which slows down the process as the WSM has to be manually cleared.

Again just a start time thing

In other countries ie Holland and Germany they do not have a two way split ie 60% on the first wave (mdt 0600 ) and 40% on the second way ( 0600 -1000 ) and wait till all 100% is ready before they start walk sequencing which has resulted in 80 % of the staff now being part timers in those countries.

Nothing at all to do with a single wave and everything to do with wage cuts and profit. In England some offices are 96% FT and some are just 50% FT. Some of the 50/50 offices get 3 waves so you see that has no impact on the ratio at all.

The CWU have now a guarntnee that the staffing levels will be around 75 % full times and that the workplan must deliver this and that they will be reviews to ensure that this is actually happening.

I'd be very interested to find out the mechanics of just how this monitoring will operate?

Yes of course we want more full time jobs but the rut started on the amount of part time jobs when we had two deliveries when most offices didt stream the work and took it all on the first delivery and that allowed managment to cut a load of second deliveries and then bought part timers into deliveries. I think overall that 75 -25 is not a bad figure given the fact that automation is coming and door to door into workload is essential to protecting full time jobs.

We've got a 50/50 ratio and guess what ,we still do second delivery even after sequencing, they call it miss-sort retrieval now