ANNOUNCEMENT : ALL OF ROYAL MAIL'S EMPLOYMENT POLICIES (AGREEMENTS) AT A GLANCE (Updated 2021)... HERE
ANNOUNCEMENT : PLEASE BE AWARE WE ARE NOT ON FACEBOOK AT ALL!
DINGO, BIG DAZ,?
-
gb93
- Posts: 1462
- Joined: 29 Oct 2009, 16:25
- Gender: Male
Re: DINGO, BIG DAZ,?
Firstly CCR you missed out the other revelant part of my post in answer to another.
TWO WRONGS DONT MAKE A RIGHT.
And as i have said numerous times the D2D thing is not the worst part of agreement for me.
TWO WRONGS DONT MAKE A RIGHT.
And as i have said numerous times the D2D thing is not the worst part of agreement for me.
This ain't no baseball game, you get only one chance and you blew it.
-
Dogs of War
- Posts: 474
- Joined: 06 Nov 2009, 21:00
- Gender: Female
Re: DINGO, BIG DAZ,?
LOVEJOY are we going to lose this supplement in 3 years? If we are why not put the 20.60 into my 40 hours so I never lose this money.
-
dvbuk55
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 16650
- Joined: 02 Jun 2007, 19:17
- Gender: Male
Re: DINGO, BIG DAZ,?
Wrong clash - you were paid for what you did - you delivered 600 you got paid for 600, you delivered 200 you got paid for 200 - now you have the situation where you deliver 600 and get paid £8 - you deliver 200 you get paid yep spot on £8 - now try as you might to point out that you could have a delivery with 800 drops and one with 400 drops - but that is what it has always been, now D2D was an additional payment which was fair and ESA was an earned payment and now evryone gets it - there should have been a ring-fence on the money and that should have been paid to THOSE WHO HAD EARNED IT under other agreements and they should have been given a lump sum representing that amount - pro rata of course.clashcityrocker wrote:But there were winners and losers in the payment per item system.gb93 wrote:
"Winners and Losers" ?.
This is something conveniently overlooked by those that were in the winning position.
To discriminate against part timers for pro rata payments for D2D is shameful.
-
dvbuk55
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 16650
- Joined: 02 Jun 2007, 19:17
- Gender: Male
Re: DINGO, BIG DAZ,?
Well I can't tell you how many will be saved but the projected job losses is 24,000 - add that to that those who will leave the union if this goes through and it will be quite difficult to see how this union can survive financially even cutting costs to the bone - unless of course their finances will be put on a more secure footing.....mentioned in the agreement. I mean they are reported to owe RM £10 million now....................BELIAL wrote:Could anyone let me know the figure of just how many jobs will be spared the axe if we accept this deal? Ta
-
dvbuk55
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 16650
- Joined: 02 Jun 2007, 19:17
- Gender: Male
Re: DINGO, BIG DAZ,?
Well I can't tell you how many will be saved but the projected job losses is 24,000 - add that to that those who will leave the union if this goes through and it will be quite difficult to see how this union can survive financially even cutting costs to the bone - unless of course their finances will be put on a more secure footing.....mentioned in the agreement. I mean they are reported to owe RM £10 million now....................BELIAL wrote:Could anyone let me know the figure of just how many jobs will be spared the axe if we accept this deal? Ta
-
dvbuk55
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 16650
- Joined: 02 Jun 2007, 19:17
- Gender: Male
Re: DINGO, BIG DAZ,?
Well I can't tell you how many will be saved but the projected job losses is 24,000 - add that to that those who will leave the union if this goes through and it will be quite difficult to see how this union can survive financially even cutting costs to the bone - unless of course their finances will be put on a more secure footing.....mentioned in the agreement. I mean they are reported to owe RM £10 million now....................BELIAL wrote:Could anyone let me know the figure of just how many jobs will be spared the axe if we accept this deal? Ta
-
dvbuk55
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 16650
- Joined: 02 Jun 2007, 19:17
- Gender: Male
Re: DINGO, BIG DAZ,?
Well I can't tell you how many will be saved but the projected job losses is 24,000 - add that to that those who will leave the union if this goes through and it will be quite difficult to see how this union can survive financially even cutting costs to the bone - unless of course their finances will be put on a more secure footing.....mentioned in the agreement. I mean they are reported to owe RM £10 million now....................BELIAL wrote:Could anyone let me know the figure of just how many jobs will be spared the axe if we accept this deal? Ta
-
dvbuk55
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 16650
- Joined: 02 Jun 2007, 19:17
- Gender: Male
Re: DINGO, BIG DAZ,?
Well I can't tell you how many will be saved but the projected job losses is 24,000 - add that to that those who will leave the union if this goes through and it will be quite difficult to see how this union can survive financially even cutting costs to the bone - unless of course their finances will be put on a more secure footing.....mentioned in the agreement. I mean they are reported to owe RM £10 million now....................BELIAL wrote:Could anyone let me know the figure of just how many jobs will be spared the axe if we accept this deal? Ta
-
BELIAL
- Posts: 6758
- Joined: 15 Jun 2007, 17:33
- Gender: Female
- Location: Nowhere
-
lovejoy
- Posts: 1255
- Joined: 30 Apr 2007, 12:59
Re: DINGO, BIG DAZ,?
The point is made Four-cefully....... I'll get my coatBELIAL wrote:You do go on
-
dvbuk55
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 16650
- Joined: 02 Jun 2007, 19:17
- Gender: Male
Re: DINGO, BIG DAZ,?
Could have posted it 24,00 times once for each member lost - however I do seem to be having a problem here - Lovejoy seems to be carrying on a conversation about my posts that I haven't been invited to and I have been blocked from the site for the best part of 20 minutes.lovejoy wrote:The point is made Four-cefully....... I'll get my coatBELIAL wrote:You do go on
-
lovejoy
- Posts: 1255
- Joined: 30 Apr 2007, 12:59
Re: DINGO, BIG DAZ,?
I was blocked too and it was posted long before the site went down..... which is why lots of people have commented as you could have. If you read my reply to you 'what would happen if we voted no' post earlier you would have noted that I said i would reply in another thread so I didn't push the other one off subject as per the wishes of the mods.dvbuk55 wrote:Could have posted it 24,00 times once for each member lost - however I do seem to be having a problem here - Lovejoy seems to be carrying on a conversation about my posts that I haven't been invited to and I have been blocked from the site for the best part of 20 minutes.lovejoy wrote:The point is made Four-cefully....... I'll get my coatBELIAL wrote:You do go on
-
OnAFlyer
- Posts: 1938
- Joined: 16 Aug 2009, 14:24
- Gender: Male
Re: DINGO, BIG DAZ,?
Bloody hell the CWU are desperate now. Getting £8 a week for RM for unlimited D2D's was harder than negotiating a cease fire with the IRA.lovejoy wrote:Roger Poole was quoted as saying these are the toughest negotiations he had ever been involved in and he was part of the NI peace process!!!
-
lovejoy
- Posts: 1255
- Joined: 30 Apr 2007, 12:59
Re: DINGO, BIG DAZ,?
The money is for a supplement not d2ds........has anyone bothered to read the agreement?OnAFlyer wrote:Bloody hell the CWU are desperate now. Getting £8 a week for RM for unlimited D2D's was harder than negotiating a cease fire with the IRA.lovejoy wrote:Roger Poole was quoted as saying these are the toughest negotiations he had ever been involved in and he was part of the NI peace process!!!
-
dvbuk55
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 16650
- Joined: 02 Jun 2007, 19:17
- Gender: Male
Re: DINGO, BIG DAZ,?
Yes lovejoy they have bothered to read the agreement and where the D2D payment has stopped and been replaced by an inferior product I think they have every right to:lovejoy wrote:The money is for a supplement not d2ds........has anyone bothered to read the agreement?OnAFlyer wrote:Bloody hell the CWU are desperate now. Getting £8 a week for RM for unlimited D2D's was harder than negotiating a cease fire with the IRA.lovejoy wrote:Roger Poole was quoted as saying these are the toughest negotiations he had ever been involved in and he was part of the NI peace process!!!
a. Complain they are losing money
b. Equate the new payment - which is pro rata by the way - to the old payment for D2D - not doing them yourself you probably don't quite understand the nuance