reg6681 wrote:After careful reading and consideration of the agreement i am minded to vote yes, as i do not think that there will be anything to be gained from further strike action particularly as doing so before the expected election could have serious implications if we are to have any hope of getting the government to take on our pensions liability. Also i have no personal problem with doing a fair days work and i feel that if there is work coming in from whatever source be it D2D or first class mail then there is more chance of keeping full time work. I have some concerns however that the more militant members are not thinking about the average RM employee who just wants a fulltime job with a decent wage, something that working for RM does offer to a large number of people. do not get me wrong i belive that RM has a long way to go before i will be happy with the way it deals with its employees but if it comes to working a bit harder to keep my mortgage payed then so be it.
Do you not think that one of the main reasons working for RM still offers a full time job with a (reasonably) decent wage might have something to do with those "militant" members fighting for better terms and pay? As in my view, that definitely wouldn't be the case if everybody just buried their heads in the sand and gratefully accepted whatever they're given.
Thats the trouble with people like you numan you're just like Oliver Twist - always wanting more why can't you be like the other boys and be satisfied with what you get - never mind those people in the back room feeding off the fat of the land whilst you bust your nuts - if you're not careful you'll end up being thrown out of the work house
Quite right dvbuk55, and to be fair to RM they are giving me more..................D2Ds
Daz you've not been taking that plant food have you? You must be the only delivery postman in the land making money on this deal - please explain how you are going to be £37 better off and we will all vote yes. I'm not a delivery postman I'm part time and including the 2% pay rise I will be £0.36p a week better off - add that to last years non pay-rise and its 18p a week - admittedly it is not a loss like thousands of my colleagues will suffer but it isn't going to make me any richer than I am now.
I do not currently do D2D, which I gather is your position, but I cannott see how I will be £37 per week better off, care to explain how it works ?
Incidentally although I will be better off if this deal goes through, Its not an improvement on conditions which is what we went on strike for. So vote NO
Big Daz wrote:2012 gross basic pay on a 39 hour week will be £372
372/39 X 30 +30 for supplement and defined area =£317 paid 52 weeks a year
My minium gross pay including shift allowance at a mere £4.65 is £280.35
So you see Im going to be getting £37 for DTD
Thought you was on 30hrs daz?
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been. My BFF Clash The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
Before joining Royal Mail 7/8 years ago I had worked in retail and retail management for a long time. I actually earned less than an average postman's salary as a FT retail manager. When I first started I could not believe how easy the job was, starting at 5 (though I soon learned get in at 4 to finish earlier) and at home by 9:30 most days having a break before going back for the 2nd delivery (probably now known as mis-sorts!).
I think anyone who has worked their whole lives at RM have had no idea what a real days work was up until recently. It really annoys me that people have paid off mortgages etc working about half the hours they have been paid for, even earning huge overtime payments for a couple of hours extra work. Well, those days are over people and we will now be worked like donkeys to pay for your luxurious final salary pension whilst we get about 30% of our salary come retirement time. I have had enough of all this industrial relation BS and workshy ******* and will be voting 'yes'.
Have you looked at the job adverts recently? Our pay is still much higher than many jobs out there.
piranha wrote:Before joining Royal Mail 7/8 years ago I had worked in retail and retail management for a long time. I actually earned less than an average postman's salary as a FT retail manager. When I first started I could not believe how easy the job was, starting at 5 (though I soon learned get in at 4 to finish earlier) and at home by 9:30 most days having a break before going back for the 2nd delivery (probably now known as mis-sorts!).
I think anyone who has worked their whole lives at RM have had no idea what a real days work was up until recently. It really annoys me that people have paid off mortgages etc working about half the hours they have been paid for, even earning huge overtime payments for a couple of hours extra work. Well, those days are over people and we will now be worked like donkeys to pay for your luxurious final salary pension whilst we get about 30% of our salary come retirement time. I have had enough of all this industrial relation BS and workshy ******* and will be voting 'yes'.
Have you looked at the job adverts recently? Our pay is still much higher than many jobs out there.
why can't you be like the other boys and be satisfied with what you get - never mind those people in the back room feeding off the fat of the land whilst you bust your nuts - if you're not careful you'll end up being thrown out of the work house
