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2010 AND BEYOND:Agreement and LTB:Download
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dubdaz
- Posts: 264
- Joined: 06 Jun 2007, 15:55
- Gender: Male
- Location: london borough in kent
Re: 2010 AND BEYOND:Agreement and LTB.
I'll be voting no and then f***ing my union subs off.Ward and Hayes your on another planet. 
Any married man should forget his mistakes. There's no use in two people remembering the same thing.
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Pat Ostman
- Posts: 2797
- Joined: 17 Sep 2008, 21:53
- Gender: Male
- Location: In the Line Managers office being screwed over.
Re: 2010 AND BEYOND:Agreement and LTB.
tragictramp wrote:seen the new book out next year - reckon its gunna be a best seller :cfo
Run, rabbit run. Dig that hole, forget the sun.
And when at last the work is done. Don't sit down, it's time to dig another one
And when at last the work is done. Don't sit down, it's time to dig another one
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baldrick
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 5034
- Joined: 13 Sep 2007, 23:37
- Gender: Male
Re: 2010 AND BEYOND:Agreement and LTB.
Agreement download is on CWU website: http://www.cwu.org/royal-mail-dispute.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;martinapsid wrote:any one got copy ltb iam on leave there must br things iam missing !!!!!
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mucker
- MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
- Posts: 605
- Joined: 25 Oct 2007, 14:12
- Gender: Female
- Location: cloud cookoo land
Re: 2010 AND BEYOND:Agreement and LTB.
page 26 cracked me up what a load of bollox

"I have opinions of my own –strong opinions– but I don’t always agree with them"
Always Tell The Truth. If You Can't Always Tell The Truth,Don't Lie
"2010 And Beyond" The Year Of The Pay Cut...£3.01 Sub's For The Worst Deal In CWU History...
Always Tell The Truth. If You Can't Always Tell The Truth,Don't Lie
"2010 And Beyond" The Year Of The Pay Cut...£3.01 Sub's For The Worst Deal In CWU History...
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wolfie64
- Posts: 2
- Joined: 09 Mar 2010, 15:35
- Gender: Male
Re: 2010 AND BEYOND:Agreement and LTB.
i think our office must be a test office to see what managers can get away with.we work like dogs and your singled out if you dont comply ITS THE FUTURE LADS
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BRAVEHEART09
- MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
- Posts: 47
- Joined: 29 Oct 2009, 19:54
- Gender: Male
Re: 2010 AND BEYOND:Agreement and LTB.
Bearing in mind although this deal has been done Royal Mail still have their business plan for 2010 to come out yet. Which means regardless of what is written in this agreement in about a months time RM will be coming to take more hours from your office.
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martinapsid
- Posts: 109
- Joined: 08 Mar 2010, 09:04
- Gender: Male
Re: 2010 AND BEYOND:Agreement and LTB.
what happens when we say no no one in my office is going to vote yes
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gideon 60
- Posts: 100
- Joined: 02 Feb 2010, 21:06
- Gender: Male
Re: 2010 AND BEYOND:Agreement and LTB.
although the agreement is vague and will return to haunt us, the negotiating team were against a spiteful management, an un interested govt and a recession which allows bonus driven managers to treat the rest of their employee,s like serfs. and with all the vitriol being heaped on haye,s and ward,is there a great general coming over the horizon to save us? I think we will have to keep our powder dry for a while.
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dvbuk55
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 16650
- Joined: 02 Jun 2007, 19:17
- Gender: Male
Re: 2010 AND BEYOND:Agreement and LTB.
Quite simply put - nothing happens - they cannot move forward without agreement, neither nationally nor locally and since all the nitty gritty will be done either way by local reps who better to understand prevailing conditions? Without agreement the status quo remains and disagreements abound.martinapsid wrote:what happens when we say no no one in my office is going to vote yes
Royal Mail aren't stupid they know they need to carry the workforce with them to make modernisation a success, however what they seriously misjudged is the ability of the CWU to cajole the workforce into agreeing to such an ill judged agreement.
Look lets be honest with each other here, does the scope of this agreement, the reward, the lack of detail, the treatment of part time staff actually make any one believe that the treatment of staff, the unmanageable workloads and unrealistic expectations of performance is going to change because of this agreement? If it does vote YES.
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Cannonbaw
- Posts: 8
- Joined: 08 Mar 2010, 13:30
- Gender: Male
Re: 2010 AND BEYOND:Agreement and LTB.
vote yes for less....do they think we're 2 and a half!!! a drop of£30 a week to do twice as much great deal ya useless c***s cwu everybody should cancel their subs at least we'll save a couple of quid a week
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chriscrack007
- Posts: 5
- Joined: 11 Mar 2010, 21:18
- Gender: Male
Re: 2010 AND BEYOND:Agreement and LTB.
just can not believe hayes and ward think we are that thick that we will vote yes to a pay cut quite unbelievable i'm shocked
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AnnexeB
- Posts: 92
- Joined: 13 Jun 2009, 12:23
- Gender: Male
Re: 2010 AND BEYOND:Agreement and LTB.
Guarenteed Payment of £1000 linked to transformation
And what is this transformation ?? And when is it paid ??
Also, as a nightshift worker, will i lose early shift allowance ??
Do any of my allowances increase ?? or decrease ??
And the 1 hour less working week ?? So will i be going home an hour earlier one day, or 10 mins earlier every day, or is this just taken from meal relief ??
Its all too vague for me, and, certainly for delivery staff, more scope for bullying and harrassment.
The D2D revenue people must be licking their lips now. Sell the product even cheaper, so you could end up with 5 lots a week, with no extra prep time.
Some walks could have 500+ houses, the walk next to him, 700+ houses. For that poor sod, he would be expected to prep between 600 - 1000 more items in the same amount of time. For less money !!!!!!!
And what is this transformation ?? And when is it paid ??
Also, as a nightshift worker, will i lose early shift allowance ??
Do any of my allowances increase ?? or decrease ??
And the 1 hour less working week ?? So will i be going home an hour earlier one day, or 10 mins earlier every day, or is this just taken from meal relief ??
Its all too vague for me, and, certainly for delivery staff, more scope for bullying and harrassment.
The D2D revenue people must be licking their lips now. Sell the product even cheaper, so you could end up with 5 lots a week, with no extra prep time.
Some walks could have 500+ houses, the walk next to him, 700+ houses. For that poor sod, he would be expected to prep between 600 - 1000 more items in the same amount of time. For less money !!!!!!!
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peterg
- Posts: 16
- Joined: 17 Jan 2008, 15:07
Re: 2010 AND BEYOND:Agreement and LTB.
Union doesn't seem to realise that we want a proper workload out of the 'agreement' rather than being bribed to scurry round like our fecking short and curlies are on fire and there's no water to extinguish them?
This hopeless union set of tosseurs must be taking it up the ringpiece to allow us to get shafted like this! Vote by taking your subs and spending it on something useful.
This hopeless union set of tosseurs must be taking it up the ringpiece to allow us to get shafted like this! Vote by taking your subs and spending it on something useful.
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Big Daz
- Posts: 5668
- Joined: 17 Apr 2007, 20:27
- Gender: Male
Re: 2010 AND BEYOND:Agreement and LTB.
AnnexeB wrote:Guarenteed Payment of £1000 linked to transformation
And what is this transformation ?? And when is it paid ??
Also, as a nightshift worker, will i lose early shift allowance ??
Do any of my allowances increase ?? or decrease ??
And the 1 hour less working week ?? So will i be going home an hour earlier one day, or 10 mins earlier every day, or is this just taken from meal relief ??
Its all too vague for me, and, certainly for delivery staff, more scope for bullying and harrassment.
The D2D revenue people must be licking their lips now. Sell the product even cheaper, so you could end up with 5 lots a week, with no extra prep time.
Some walks could have 500+ houses, the walk next to him, 700+ houses. For that poor sod, he would be expected to prep between 600 - 1000 more items in the same amount of time. For less money !!!!!!!
You forget the the agreement says duties WILL be adjusted, the right wording is there, its now a matter of getting them actioned.
I dont give a shite how many I get, my duty WILL be adjusted!!!!!
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dvbuk55
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 16650
- Joined: 02 Jun 2007, 19:17
- Gender: Male
Re: 2010 AND BEYOND:Agreement and LTB.
Yes of course it willBig Daz wrote:AnnexeB wrote:Guarenteed Payment of £1000 linked to transformation
And what is this transformation ?? And when is it paid ??
Also, as a nightshift worker, will i lose early shift allowance ??
Do any of my allowances increase ?? or decrease ??
And the 1 hour less working week ?? So will i be going home an hour earlier one day, or 10 mins earlier every day, or is this just taken from meal relief ??
Its all too vague for me, and, certainly for delivery staff, more scope for bullying and harrassment.
The D2D revenue people must be licking their lips now. Sell the product even cheaper, so you could end up with 5 lots a week, with no extra prep time.
Some walks could have 500+ houses, the walk next to him, 700+ houses. For that poor sod, he would be expected to prep between 600 - 1000 more items in the same amount of time. For less money !!!!!!!
You forget the the agreement says duties WILL be adjusted, the right wording is there, its now a matter of getting them actioned.
I dont give a shite how many I get, my duty WILL be adjusted!!!!!