Been given a warning. What does this mean.

[NewPostieUK]

Cyberheater: You did nothing wrong pouching off missorts, as long as you didn't have time to deliver them. You should never take mail home however. Next busy day, before you leave the office, get hold of your manager and tell him that it's busy, you'll be finishing at or after your proper finishing time, so what should you do with any missorts you might have. Let him make a decision as to what you do with them, but don't be bullied into agreeing to deliver them after your finish time.

[cyberheater]

if you have only been warned i would keep quiet and carry on if i was you, that is an instant dismissal in my office, if you get only a warning you are getting off lightly.

I think you right. I do think I got of lightly considering but I did play it straight with the manager.

Regarding pouching off, if you have to put missorts in then ring your line manager and ask him if he wants to come pick them up or if you can put them in the bag because your duty time is near the end and you wont have time deliver them, if you still had time then you would. Or if he gets funny tell him you will have to cut off your walk early to allow time to go back to the office to return your missorts, he will soon give you the ok to put them in the pouch.

I'll try that.

By the way your an idiot for getting in early, its people doing that which make this job harder for the rest of us, if your walk is too long then get in on your time and dont work for free and cut off each time you cant complete within time to highlight the fact that it cant be done. If you worked in tescos would you go and sit on the checkout and start serving people and hour early everyday for free? if not why work for free just because your a postman, you have the right to finish at 2:15 and if that means cutting off so be it, if the walks too long then thats the managers problem to sort out not yours.

I agree mate. I feel like an idiot for doing it but no more. I've had enough. They're just taking the piss out of me.

[coxie]

cutting off means if you cannot complete your duty by your finish time of 2:15 you can take whatever mail back to the office you have left even if its 2 or 3 bags and say sorry i have run out of time and couldnt complete see you tomorrow lol. Managers dont tell you this because they obviously dont want you to do it because they have to cover it, so tell your manager either he gives you permission to put missorts in the blue bag to send back providing you dont have any time left to do them, or tell him if you have to take them back to the office you may have to cut off your duty to enable you to be back to the office at 2:15, thats the time you get back to the office, so if it takes you 20mins to get back you stop delivering about 13:50, or ask him to talk to you to come to an arrangment such as could he sent a driver to pick them up from you.

[cyberheater]

Cyberheater: You did nothing wrong pouching off missorts, as long as you didn't have time to deliver them. You should never take mail home however. Next busy day, before you leave the office, get hold of your manager and tell him that it's busy, you'll be finishing at or after your proper finishing time, so what should you do with any missorts you might have. Let him make a decision as to what you do with them, but don't be bullied into agreeing to deliver them after your finish time.

I think that's the approach I'm going to be taking from now on. I'm not prepared to work past my hours so get them to decide how they carve up my day. I can't do it all.

[coxie]

cyber give your manager a chance and see how he reacts, talk to him at work, explain that your duty is long and you get in early to make sure you finish it in time to pick your kids up, tell him you dont have to get in early but you like to complete (personally i wouldnt get in early unless they paid me). Then tell him that most the time delivering takes you up untill your finish time and you dont have time to deliver missorts, tell him if you finish early and have missorts then you will go back and deliver them, but tell him if you have run out of time does he 1. want you to pouch them off so they return safely 2. send someone to pick them up or 3. want you to cut off and get back to the office for 2:15 just to take a few missorts back. Try to sound reasonable at 1st.

1 more tip, regarding taking mail home, never do it, you can get sacked, if they do try to take it further then plead ignorant, say you are quite new and you didnt know because you have never been told, the chances are you will get off with just a warning then.

[el_cartero]

what i dont get is by the time i realise i am not goint to complete its to late to call them as there well gone from office


+ why the f**k should i be topping up a phone just to call them?


what then?

[coxie]

also cyber how much earlier do you get in to start your shift? is it just like 20mins or are we talking an hour or more, if its an hour or more tell your manager you wont be doing that anymore on busy days unless he is willing to pay overtime, if you are part time they are supposed to have it mostly prepped for you when you get in. Rememeber you only have to work your contracted hours each day, anything beyond that is their problem, they are the 1s that handed out shitty contracts and made the walks too long, im a floater and i have 1 really long walk each week and without fail I cut off on it because i cant get it done under 4 hrs, but thats not my problem its theirs, and because i have kept cutting off they are looking to take a bit off of it now. If you dont highlight the problems mate then the managers wont do anything about it.

[coxie]

what i dont get is by the time i realise i am not goint to complete its to late to call them as there well gone from office


+ why the f**k should i be topping up a phone just to call them?


what then?

if you dont tell them because you didnt realise you wouldnt complete then they cant do nothing, you dont have to use your phone, a manager should still be there should you decide to return with mail because you run out of time, however if you do feel there is a chance you might not be able to complete then you should tell a manager before you go out that theres a chance you might not complete but you have to credit to phone or you dont want to waste your credit phoning, maybe ask your manager if he can phone you at some point to see how you are getting on. Its just common sense

[labbloke]

Hi bro,

can sympathise with you,

P/t myself who often finds upto a dozen missorts in my round.

Thankfully was warned by the older heads about keeping mail in your possesion overnight and was told to use that strange red pillar box shaped receptacle at the end of shift.

[memo232]

what i dont get is by the time i realise i am not goint to complete its to late to call them as there well gone from office


+ why the f**k should i be topping up a phone just to call them?


what then?

0800 7383773 call this number first and key in your office no when prompted, the office will pay for the call, not you.

[el_cartero]

theres no one in my office after 12!

And im not even ahalf way through walk by then....

But i just do the work and claim overtime.

or if i forget ........ i dont

i feel like a right tit working for free but hey could be worse ................

could get a a yes vote then it will be WORSE

[Caniel]

You work to your time, if you have miss-sorts left over as long as you have time you go deliver them if not then you bring them back. If a manager moans at you for that tell him to employ a robot that won't make mistakes as your only human.

[stokes11eg]

Did this warning take you down the conduct code route? This warning will be kept on record. If it went down the conduct code route, you should have been given a written copy of what was said. as you are new, and if you are still talking to your Manager, get him to confirm what you do when you are over your time, and have mis-sorts,this should keep you right.Every item of mail that goes back must have an endorsement. Good Luck.

[cyberheater]

Did this warning take you down the conduct code route?

No I don't think so. He said he would just note it in his diary. Not formal as such.

And I understand that every item of mail should be endorsed but how should I endorse a miss sort that can be delivered on my round. I can't (or shouldn't) endorse it 'under inquiry' and that's the nearest fit.

@labbloke
I understand what you're saying about using the post box to dump the miss sorts but surely that could be seen as wilful delay of mail so i'd be no better off.

[stokes11eg]

Did this warning take you down the conduct code route?

No I don't think so. He said he would just note it in his diary. Not formal as such.

And I understand that every item of mail should be endorsed but how should I endorse a miss sort that can be delivered on my round. I can't (or shouldn't) endorse it 'under inquiry' and that's the nearest fit.

@labbloke
I understand what you're saying about using the post box to dump the miss sorts but surely that could be seen as wilful delay of mail so i'd be no better off.

Our office has a policy of just putting a M/S plus date on envelope, but again you must check with your boss, he sounds like an o.k guy to me--if you do not prep up your own duty ,most reasonable bosses accept a certain amount of mis-sorted mail.just do not abuse the system and if you have time left at the end of the walk, re-deliver as many ass possible.
Best always check with the boss rather than workmates on these issues, as you will be told too many different things. if you have a workplace coach, speak to them too.