2010 AND BEYOND:Agreement and LTB:Download

[Pat Ostman]

Billy : "Sorry for the delay in uploading the agreement, I hit the wrong button and my Lunch bill from the hotel got uploaded"

[jaja]

Wow, this is a better looking. Might vote yes now

It all looks good ! wait a mo i'm looking through my shitey specks


vote yes if your a mug

[Pat Ostman]

Wow, this is a better looking. Might vote yes now

It all looks good ! wait a mo i'm looking through my shitey specks


vote yes if your a mug

Believe me there are plenty of mugs out there that will grab the £400 to agree this crap.

[dados]

its shite,end of

[rhino49]

"Although the reduction is on gross hours, in net terms it will mean delivery employees are working 35 hours 40 minutes per week and mail centre employees below 35 hours due to relaxation allowances."

Does this mean that we are no longer paid for our meal reliefs but still have to include them in the attendance pattern - and if so is our hourly rate increased proportionately ? Or .....is this where the rather small percentage increases are coming from - if so then we are not being given more money but rather being allowed to keep part of what we once had.

[2old4this]

Well I've just seen a manager on Sky news grinning from ear to ear. Yep he said "the dispute is over" I take it we've been sharfted.

[jaja]

Wow, this is a better looking. Might vote yes now

It all looks good ! wait a mo i'm looking through my shitey specks


vote yes if your a mug

Believe me there are plenty of mugs out there that will grab the £400 to agree this crap.

your right there, especially whan the so called lump sums are made up from money that is already theirs

what a load of feckin crap

[Fluke]

Seeing as Postmans Bandwidth will take a hit bung a couple of quid his way if you are so inclined.

He might as well have the our union subs, because the mongs in HQ certainly dont deserve them.

[happymackem]

having had a quick look thru it
what exactily is the Existing MtSF arrangements.
Mmmm

[persil33]

i would not even wipe my arse with this.

[dvbuk55]

This is a much better produced document, says the same of course, still a load of crap but so professionally produced I might vote yes

[Danelectro]

Well after reading that its quite clear that our wonderful leadership think they deserve a round of applause and are deadly serious about convincing us that this agreement is the only game in town-''WE CAN JUSTIFIABLY STATE THAT WE HAVE DELIVERED ALL THE COMMITMENTS MADE AT THE START OF THE NATIONAL DISPUTE''

I have to laugh at one of the great things they have achieved-''STRONGEST EVER WORDS ON INNOVATIVE DUTY PATTERNS'',jesus are these guys negotiating in an opium den or something??

[KilliePostie]

hahaha an agreement of 75% Full time to 25% part time staff.... aye, right. it's 50:50 in our office and there are part timers in there that have waited years for a FT position - whever a FT-er goes, his duty reverts to PT. no chance we'll get FT jobs back into our office.

this "agreement" is worthless. it gives with one hand and then koshes you about the head with other, takes everything back and dips your pockets while it's at it.

[Fluke]

Delivery

The Delivery section has achieved the following:-

• Long standing conference policy removal of private cars on delivery confirmed.

• Achievement of conference policy removal of weight off the shoulder.

• Achievement of conference policy Door to Door into workload plus retention of the remuneration.

• A revised revision process that involves the CWU from start to finish which was one of the fundamental issues of the national dispute.

Where in the agreement does it say that private cars will be removed from delivery? Even the CDV document leaves the door open on that one.

[RichEnigma]

The CWU website has put up their spin on things:
http://cwu.org/news/archive/deal-brings ... rkers.html

The agreement is over 80 pages long and covers lots of industrial detail for different areas of Royal Mail."

It would have been at least half that long if they'd removed all the corporate doublespeak. I also love the way they've put certain parts of the writing in bold:

· Pay: increases to basic pay of over 6.9% over three years broken down as:
o 2% in April 2010
o 1.4% in April 2011
o 3.5% in April 2012

And it seems the union is optimistic about inflation or else they wouldn't be so keen to lock us in to those rates. 2% this year? Well current annual rates are at 3.5% http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=19 And even though I have a GCSE in maths, it doesn't take a mathematical genius to understand that it's no pay increase at all.
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