does your union drink with the doms??

[fishtank]

when we are called up to sort in the morning......our rep goes into dom's office for a coffee with the dom......while the rest of us sort....

He is entitled to do this IF he has something to discuss with the DOM such as daily traffic,resourcing ,opportunities for absorbtion(none ) etc.
However if he is just in there to have a coffee and put his feet up he is a waste of space...Bin him.....simple.

[Badwolf]

Pull the reins back lads not all reps are like this just a few bad apples that forget they are no better than the members it represents,and get above there station.

Listen mate this rep when out drinking with your DOM is letting everything out the bag about every person in your office and dishing all the dirt make no mistake about that.

Are you prepared to stand for rep will you get the backing from your fellow workers, and what do your fellow workers think about the rep and his relationship with your DOM.

If like you they are rather annoyed and you are prepared to stand for rep have a vote of no confidence in him and stand against him.

Get in touch with your branch and let them no you wish to stand against him and your reasons why. But if you are elected your current rep will then be the mole in the camp relaying at times vital info back to management so if elected choose your words wisely in front of this person .

Good luck buddy stand against him you will enjoy repping at times ,and hate it at others plus it gives you a great insight into many avenues you would never go down if you werent repping.

To have a vote of no confidence in him you must ring the branch and inform them and ask for a nominations form to be sent to your office. This goes up on your union notice board for 1 week you sign it and you get a seconder and a mover ,if its tied it will then go to ballot were the whole office will vote for who they think is fit .

Spot on

[demon]

TOP CWU MEMBERS ARE IN THERE TO

[smelly_cat_lady]

seeing as you appear to know where they go to drink then why not get a few like minded posties together and go there yourself one night? arrive after they have settled down with their pints of 'ye olde two faced ale' and stroll in and set up camp right next to them. have a loud discussion between yourselves about what a 2 faced twat your rep is, discuss options on voting him out etc and watch him turn green/red. leave when you think he's had enough. firm but fair

[MinisterofCucumber]

Managers do drink together, and as our union officials are now part of the management structure, I am not surprised they do this.

After looking at the agreement, I would not advise anyone to become a CWU rep. If you do this, your hands will be tied. What we need in every workplace are unofficial reps who will keep their workmates informed of what is going on, will scrutinise everything that the official collaborator reps do, and will use the grievance procedure when necessary.

Everyone needs to realise that the new agreement means you can no longer trust your reps. Believe me, after trying to operate under the new system, the decent reps will resign and be replaced by rats.

The golden rule when dealing with people you don't trust is to deal with them in writing. This includes your reps, gone.

[tommymac]

Our rep wouldn't be in the same pub as the dom, let alone have a drink with him!!!!

[el_cartero]

not as bad as cwu leaders drinking with crozier

[POSTMAN]

not as bad as cwu leaders drinking with crozier

Have you seen them doing it drinking together that is.

[el_cartero]

not as bad as cwu leaders drinking with crozier

Have you seen them doing it drinking together that is.

ive seen the deal - enough said
ps - i dont think crozier would live for very long if went to a pub.

so it was probably just spiked tea and choco disgestives .

[eireann]

There's an old saying, 'keep your friends close and your enemies closer.'

This is my take, 'If, you knew for absolute certain the rep was relaying stories to management - then I would get a collective agreement from colleagues and create a scenario - a story that you can all remember, all agree upon and just make sure it is repeated enough times to him...then stand back and leave well alone.' It's like torchpaper, it will ignite itself and he will be sprung - just give him enough rope....

[Exrep]

Managers do drink together, and as our union officials are now part of the management structure, I am not surprised they do this.

After looking at the agreement, I would not advise anyone to become a CWU rep. If you do this, your hands will be tied. What we need in every workplace are unofficial reps who will keep their workmates informed of what is going on, will scrutinise everything that the official collaborator reps do, and will use the grievance procedure when necessary.

Everyone needs to realise that the new agreement means you can no longer trust your reps. Believe me, after trying to operate under the new system, the decent reps will resign and be replaced by rats.

The golden rule when dealing with people you don't trust is to deal with them in writing. This includes your reps, gone.

Disagree with you there Minister im a rep and im far from being part of the managerial structure. I would never consider drinking with management or socialising with them on any level.

As a rep your hands are far from tied i keep the members i represent fully informed of all on goings and i scrutinise all managerial decision if i get no joy from them i allways go to disagreement R/M management will not recognise any un-offical representitive and will ride rough shot over the work force.

Im rather offended how you can honestly say not to trust your unit rep obviously you have had a bad experience of a bad rep in the past and your not willing to give other reps the benefit of the doubt.

Please dont tar us all with the same brush for the last couple of years reps have come under a major attack by R/M and considering this we have all done a thankless job ( We do not look for thanks from our members we rep to defend them). Remember R/M tactics over these last couple of years have been to destroy the union but they will not succeed has your current or previous reps never made your work place better regardless of how big or small the change has been.

[MinisterofCucumber]

Monkeyboy,

I work in a POL cash centre and I suspect we are used as a testing ground.

Our rep has always been a collaborator and has been supported by our branch and a Territorial Counters rep who moonlights as a Labour councillor in an area whose MP is one of Mandelson's top lieutenants.

If you want to see the future, take a good look at what has happened in POL:

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Our rep has helped management create an unfair system of duties that results in a minority of staff doing the majority of the work, but because we are a minority we don't have voting power. We didn't even find out about the grievance procedure until last year.

If this new agreement goes through you won't be able to continue your good work.

[Exrep]

Im a rep in a delivery i dont know how reps operate in other parts of the business but we delivery reps do thinks slightly different to may be what you have experienced.

And that is by means of fighting and arguing with management on a daily basis due to there idiotic ill thought up plans on managing D/Os, and at the same time keeping our members fully informed regardless of how big or small it may be.

R/M have only one intention and that is to break the union and that will be there agenda for many years to come as we are a thorn in there side.

As long as ive got air in my lungs i will continue to represent the staff in our office to the best of my ability. I will not be broken by R/M so my good work if people see it that way will continue.