UPDATE FROM HQ

[axeman]

And which set of figuers is mr higson going to show the reps ? the bullsh*t ones or the true ones which even hooper could not obtain nor the select commite into the hooper report

[k979aaa]

If this agreement includes 4.5 hour delivery spans on five day weeks!. WE SHOULD ALL SAY NO AND SAY IT THROUGH THE BALLOT PAPER WE SHOULD ALL RECEIVE!.

[pdmdanny]

If this agreement includes 4.5 hour delivery spans on five day weeks!. WE SHOULD ALL SAY NO AND SAY IT THROUGH THE BALLOT PAPER WE SHOULD ALL RECEIVE!.

so you prefer to spend 4.5 hours in the office with your DOM ?

[belle smith]

If this agreement includes 4.5 hour delivery spans on five day weeks!. WE SHOULD ALL SAY NO AND SAY IT THROUGH THE BALLOT PAPER WE SHOULD ALL RECEIVE!.

so you prefer to spend 4.5 hours in the office with your DOM ?

Yep!

[clashcityrocker]

so you prefer to spend 4.5 hours in the office with your DOM ?

I think the point is - a 4.5 hr delivery is not a realistic option for most people.
Day in day out in all weathers without a proper independent assessment of the workload is a non starter for most people.

[POSTMAN]

4.5 is very bad,our office done,before exec act took our 4 day weeks away,4hr walks,and the only saving grace was the extra time off.

[fishtank]

If this agreement includes 4.5 hour delivery spans on five day weeks!. WE SHOULD ALL SAY NO AND SAY IT THROUGH THE BALLOT PAPER WE SHOULD ALL RECEIVE!.

The agreement will not in my opinion have ANY single span.
That is the real worry.

[pjthebear]

The deal will be done tonight even if it takes all night !

So when will we find out what the proposed deal is??

[BELIAL]

The deal will be done tonight even if it takes all night !

Surely it's only a done deal if the membership vote for it? Or am I missing something about democratic principles and collective bargaining?

[clashcityrocker]

The agreement will not in my opinion have ANY single span.
That is the real worry.

You are quite right Fishtank
It will depend what ratio of f/t to p/t you want in your office within the 75/25 ratio that might be in the official agreement.

[Glenno]

I personally am now dreading " the new agreement" i hope it takes another 6 mnths keep the status quo
at least you know what to do on a daily basis???????????? only joking BRING IT ON let the dog
see the rabbit and judge it accordingly it will take a lot of READING all 60+ pages then make your vote (pec permitting)
I just hope and prey that there is not tooo much LOCAL AGREEMENT placed into it

[belle smith]

I just hope and prey that there is not tooo much LOCAL AGREEMENT placed into it

if it's anything like last time there will be....plus the lump sums will be predicated on reaching those local agreements.

[k979aaa]

I just hope and prey that there is not tooo much LOCAL AGREEMENT placed into it

if it's anything like last time there will be....plus the lump sums will be predicated on reaching those local agreements.

More carrots for the sad donkeys that do not look beyond the first two pages!.

[postnottm]

hi everyone , im new here so please tell me what ive missed, what leaks have we had thanks

[GHOSTman]

hi everyone , im new here so please tell me what ive missed, what leaks have we had thanks

we've had more leaks than the titanic mate....and were probably going in the same direction as the titanic too.