having read through this post, i thought do i want to get invovled in this? it seems having had a look on the internet, that England is indeed overcrowded in some parts especially in London and the SE. now it seems to me we should have a proper, out in the open debate on the pros and cons of immigration . but why is this not the case ? the waters seem somewhat muddy to me , large immigration is used to undercut our wages , the larger pool of unemployed workers enable the bosses to pay lesser wages ?, but in fact immigrants pay more in taxes than they take out ? . these are just 2 arguments i have found on the internet. another thing to consider is- we are a wealthy country , people will want to come here rather than a poor country ? what about our ageing population , who will pay our pensions when we retire ? etc etc. on a personel level i like to treat each person i meet as an individual. most are nice , some are not. i get disrespected mostly by white people but this doesnt stop me hating the next white person i meet. now i had a little look on the BNP website and found this..... "IMMIGRATION – time to say ENOUGH!opgpat wrote:With all the knee-jerk reactionary slagging of facists, communists, new labourites and now Gadaffi(!) in this thread the reasons for the relevance of the BNP in 2010 is being totally overlooked.
The BNP are relevant because they have a million voters (over 6% of all votes in last years UK Euro elections). The WHOLE POINT is that they have popular support not because of 'fascist proaganda' or because they are secret Nazis but because of mass immigation into the UK! Simple. It's NOTHING to do with fascism and certainly not fascist voters. It is frustration at an open-door immigation policy. The BNP tackle THIS issue (with certain prejudices) and therefore they get the support of concerned voters. Close the doors to mass immigrantion and the BNP support will fade away. The 3 main parties wouldn't even discuss this problem/non-problem before the BNP raised hell about it, they atleast are addressing what the public want to see debated.
Multiculturalism doesn't exist in many parts of Britain, it's mono-culturalism in places with those cultures being non-white and non-English speaking. It's beyond a joke. Half of the country is afraid to say what they honestly think because they will be labelled fascist or racist. Personally I have total respect for white, black, brown and yellow but think there are TOO MANY immigrants in the UK. It's not racism it's a concern about over crowding, feeling a forigner in your own high street, seeing millions of jobs going to migrants while the jobless natives are neglected and UK tax money going into the pockets of people who haven't contributed.
What's more, to support a Labour Government that has directly caused the needless deaths of thousands of innocent Iraqis, Afghans and UK soldiers is MORE distastseful I would argue than flying the flag for the BNP. How many bystanders have the BNP actually killed? How many has the Labour cabinet caused to have been killed based on blatant lies? Who are more dangerous to the British public? Are we safer now from Al Quieda end extremist Islam than we were 8 years ago? Unlike the BNP, Labour has killed thousands of innocents so why don't they get the same vitriol from the anti-BNP crowd who are so affraid of the damage the BNP will supposedly do to Britain?! Can't you see the FASCISTS are already in power? That's really smelling the coffee. Nasty cheap instant stuff.
btw talk about propaganda, the EDL say they are NOT anti-muslim they are anti Islamic Extremism and if that's the case they are the new anti-facist movement of the 21st Century.
"Are the English Defence League Racist?
Some organisations and media reports have branded the EDL as ‘racist,’ ‘fascist,’ ‘far-right,’ or even ‘Zionist.’ All of these accusations are flat out untrue. We take an actively anti-racist and anti-fascist stance. In addition, the EDL is non-political, taking no position on right-wing vs left-wing. We welcome members from all over the political spectrum, and with varying views on foreign policy, united against Islamic extremism and its influence on British life."
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If the JIhadists get as organised as Moselys BUF the new cable street battle will be between Islam UK and the EDL and we will thank them for taking on the fight. Where are the Commies and Lefties taking on Jihadism? Too PC these days to consider it.
On current demographic trends, we, the native British people, will be an ethnic minority in our own country within sixty years.
To ensure that this does not happen, and that the British people retain their homeland and identity, we call for an immediate halt to all further immigration, the immediate deportation of criminal and illegal immigrants, and the introduction of a system of voluntary resettlement whereby those immigrants who are legally here will be afforded the opportunity to return to their lands of ethnic origin assisted by a generous financial incentives both for individuals and for the countries in question." ...........................seems like paid repatriation to me ? what if they dont want to go ? how much pressure will the BNP and its supporters put on them ? ethnic cleansing anyone ? what about the brilliant ethnic sportsmen and women that now represent our country , the intelligent doctors and nurses etc will they have to go ? ok , they have all gone , what next ? more space and less pressure on our services maybe but will the expliotation of the white working class stop, will the antagonisms between the classes stop ? The BNP in power under Capitalism would it look any different ?
is taking tangents to the extreme. 
