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Re: Campaigners unite to combat fascism

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Griffin, along with fellow NF activists Derek Holland and Patrick Harrington, began to embrace the ideals of Italian fascist Roberto Fiore (Fiore had arrived in the UK in 1980). By 1983 the group had broken away to form the NF Political Soldier faction, which advocated a revival of country "values" and a return to feudalism with the establishment of nationalist communes.

Now I see why Nationalists such as the BNP hate Socialists and left wing groups, they don't want us serfs getting uppity.

He also attempted to form alliances with Libya's Colonel Gadaffi and Iran's Ayatollah Khomeini, -

so he may not have committed acts of terrorism but he certainly had connections with those that did.

He also became editor of two right-wing magazines owned by Tyndall, Spearhead and The Rune. Referring to the election of the BNP's first councillor at a 1993 council by-election in Millwall, in the London Borough of Tower Hamlets, he wrote:
The electors of Millwall did not back a post modernist rightist party, but what they perceived to be a strong, disciplined organisation with the ability to back up its slogan "Defend Rights for Whites" with well-directed boots and fists.


Well it looks like he espoused violence when he was a BNP member, and he was definitely supportive of a Whites rights as he saw them.
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Re: Campaigners unite to combat fascism

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damo wrote:IWW
as ever i look forward to your usual replies.
errrrrrrr im mixed raced i would not feel safe anywhere near the BNP whatever label you give them. Do you realise the carnage they would cause if they acheived any real power, or is that what you want?
You have got to witness these thugs and thier bedfellows the EDL at close quarters.
Just accept we are a vibrant multicultral nation the envy of the world,dont need Nazis, Racists and islamaphobics to f*** it up.
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Re: Campaigners unite to combat fascism

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robinhood wrote:
damo wrote:IWW
as ever i look forward to your usual replies.
errrrrrrr im mixed raced i would not feel safe anywhere near the BNP whatever label you give them. Do you realise the carnage they would cause if they acheived any real power, or is that what you want?
You have got to witness these thugs and thier bedfellows the EDL at close quarters.
Just accept we are a vibrant multicultral nation the envy of the world,dont need Nazis, Racists and islamaphobics to f*** it up.
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Who are the real Fascists??

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With all the knee-jerk reactionary slagging of facists, communists, new labourites and now Gadaffi(!) in this thread the reasons for the relevance of the BNP in 2010 is being totally overlooked.

The BNP are relevant because they have a million voters (over 6% of all votes in last years UK Euro elections). The WHOLE POINT is that they have popular support not because of 'fascist proaganda' or because they are secret Nazis but because of mass immigation into the UK! Simple. It's NOTHING to do with fascism and certainly not fascist voters. It is frustration at an open-door immigation policy. The BNP tackle THIS issue (with certain prejudices) and therefore they get the support of concerned voters. Close the doors to mass immigrantion and the BNP support will fade away. The 3 main parties wouldn't even discuss this problem/non-problem before the BNP raised hell about it, they atleast are addressing what the public want to see debated.

Multiculturalism doesn't exist in many parts of Britain, it's mono-culturalism in places with those cultures being non-white and non-English speaking. It's beyond a joke. Half of the country is afraid to say what they honestly think because they will be labelled fascist or racist. Personally I have total respect for white, black, brown and yellow but think there are TOO MANY immigrants in the UK. It's not racism it's a concern about over crowding, feeling a forigner in your own high street, seeing millions of jobs going to migrants while the jobless natives are neglected and UK tax money going into the pockets of people who haven't contributed.

What's more, to support a Labour Government that has directly caused the needless deaths of thousands of innocent Iraqis, Afghans and UK soldiers is MORE distastseful I would argue than flying the flag for the BNP. How many bystanders have the BNP actually killed? How many has the Labour cabinet caused to have been killed based on blatant lies? Who are more dangerous to the British public? Are we safer now from Al Quieda end extremist Islam than we were 8 years ago? Unlike the BNP, Labour has killed thousands of innocents so why don't they get the same vitriol from the anti-BNP crowd who are so affraid of the damage the BNP will supposedly do to Britain?! Can't you see the FASCISTS are already in power? That's really smelling the coffee. Nasty cheap instant stuff.

btw talk about propaganda, the EDL say they are NOT anti-muslim they are anti Islamic Extremism and if that's the case they are the new anti-facist movement of the 21st Century.

"Are the English Defence League Racist?

Some organisations and media reports have branded the EDL as ‘racist,’ ‘fascist,’ ‘far-right,’ or even ‘Zionist.’ All of these accusations are flat out untrue. We take an actively anti-racist and anti-fascist stance. In addition, the EDL is non-political, taking no position on right-wing vs left-wing. We welcome members from all over the political spectrum, and with varying views on foreign policy, united against Islamic extremism and its influence on British life."


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If the JIhadists get as organised as Moselys BUF the new cable street battle will be between Islam UK and the EDL and we will thank them for taking on the fight. Where are the Commies and Lefties taking on Jihadism? Too PC these days to consider it.
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Re: Campaigners unite to combat fascism

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I need a shower ,yuck
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Re: Campaigners unite to combat fascism

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BELIAL wrote:I need a shower ,yuck
Can you leave the water running. I feel I will need the shower after you.
Unless there's room for two?
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Re: Campaigners unite to combat fascism

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clashcityrocker wrote:
BELIAL wrote:I need a shower ,yuck
Can you leave the water running. I feel I will need the shower after you.
Unless there's room for two?
The BNP won't like 2 blokes together in the shower. (If Belial is a bloke)
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Re: Campaigners unite to combat fascism

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clashcityrocker wrote:
BELIAL wrote:I need a shower ,yuck
Can you leave the water running. I feel I will need the shower after you.
That told him. I bet you've really won him over with those particularly skilfull ripostes.. :roll:

Alternatively, you've proved his point that Im********n apparently can't be discussed in an open and frank manner... :crazy:
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Re: Who are the real Fascists??

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opgpat wrote:
Multiculturalism doesn't exist in many parts of Britain, it's mono-culturalism in places with those cultures being non-white and non-English speaking. It's beyond a joke. Half of the country is afraid to say what they honestly think because they will be labelled fascist or racist. Personally I have total respect for white, black, brown and yellow but think there are TOO MANY immigrants in the UK. It's not racism it's a concern about over crowding, feeling a forigner in your own high street, seeing millions of jobs going to migrants while the jobless natives are neglected and UK tax money going into the pockets of people who haven't contributed.


Simply repeating the same crap doesn't make it true.
Simply using capital letters doesn't make it true.
"Half the country is afraid to say what they honestly think......" 30 million people? Where exactly does that figure come from?
A portion of the BNP vote will have been a protest vote aimed at the ruling elite not a statement on concerns over immigration.
Here in Scotland we face a falling population. Emigration is greater than immigration.
"Millions of jobs going to migrants" Again an unsubstantiated figure backed up by nothing but hyperpobole and ignorance.
The migrants in a lot of cases do the jobs the white jobless natives won't do or can't do.
Or is your argument Chelsea should send Drogba back to Bongo Bongo Land so some unemployed knucklehead Chelsea Headhunter can play up front?
Bollocks from start to finish.
And Tman you talk bollocks as well
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Re: Campaigners unite to combat fascism

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IWW Fellow Worker wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:
shimmyrule wrote: He was asked to leave-repeatedly, he never, he went- forcibly, just as you or i would if we were asked to leave a nightclub, or move if required by the police at a demo, sensationalist gutterpress journalism, some of you really should know better :pray
Blah Blah Blah.
The BNP are racist thugs (let's not start on the convictions for child porn)
Stand up and be counted for what you are. Or are you too ashamed?

What's the betting he isn't even a member.

You know full well im a fully paid up member/activist of the party,have been for over a decade- some on here even gave my name out on here a while back, hoping i would be noticed by any lurking managers on here, with a view to being "caught" for posting on this site, and possibly dismissed at work.How childish and sick.

What happened, i was warned by the people who run the site to leave, but it was ok for someone on here, to give my full name out.

Thats when you know youve won the debate.

The bnp is always a hot topic, and its funny reading the rubbish people make up and believe sometimes, clash city rocker mentions paedophiles in the party!!!!
Christ- google liars buggers and thieves, then we can talk about paedophilia, and not some half baked concocted story from the searchlight archives. :arrrghhh
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Re: Campaigners unite to combat fascism

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God i hate theses thread....

Anyway,shimmy,i have no problem with others who follow different political parties,free speech,democratic society,ect ect.

I asked you to leave not because of your views,but you gave out the site address and encouraged others to 'wind them up',in fact you did not actually give out the address as you know i can find links to who links to the site,you told them to google it so it would not show up in my stats.
And again for the record,the member who gave out your details had a ban imposed because of it.

You're a postie 1st in my eyes and always welcome,but any postie who tries to screw the site will be asked to leave.
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Re: Campaigners unite to combat fascism

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shimmyrule wrote:You know full well im a fully paid up member/activist of the party,have been for over a decade- some on here even gave my name out on here a while back, hoping i would be noticed by any lurking managers on here, with a view to being "caught" for posting on this site, and possibly dismissed at work.How childish and sick.

What happened, i was warned by the people who run the site to leave, but it was ok for someone on here, to give my full name out.

Thats when you know youve won the debate.

The bnp is always a hot topic, and its funny reading the rubbish people make up and believe sometimes, clash city rocker mentions paedophiles in the party!!!!
Christ- google liars buggers and thieves, then we can talk about paedophilia, and not some half baked concocted story from the searchlight archives. :arrrghhh
Don't be rediculous Shimmyrule. The person who "outed" you, was dealt with, and that post was removed, as soon as we found it, as you well know. And as for being warned to leave. What actually happened,was you were politely asked, to leave, because you were causing so much trouble, at the time. We simply couldn't keep up with the complaints against you.

What the member who "outed" you did, was a major rule breach, and was treated as such. But so, is posting a request for BNP Members to join RMC, to join in your campaign. If you MUST make accusations like these. At least, TRY to get your facts straight. :hmmmm

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Sorry Postman, you beat me too it. That's what I get for taking too long, looking up the details. :oops:
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Re: Who are the real Fascists??

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And Tman you talk bollocks as well
What, you're saying that your's and Bell's particularly amateurish replies to Ogpat were somehow worthy of reading?
At least you've written something more appropriate in reply since then, so presumably far from being "bollocks" my comment actually provoked you into giving it some thought. Job done, then. :shhhhh
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Re: Who are the real Fascists??

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Tman wrote:
And Tman you talk bollocks as well
What, you're saying that your's and Bell's particularly amateurish replies to Ogpat were somehow worthy of reading?
At least you've written something more appropriate in reply since then, so presumably far from being "bollocks" my comment actually provoked you into giving it some thought. Job done, then. :shhhhh
Tman - why not give your opinions on the thread instead of just cherry picking parts of other peoples posts and making sarcastic comments (I think you'll find that's my job :wink: ).
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