50%mcs 50%rdc

[borders]

I've heard all MC's in Kent to go with one new one being built either near Maidstone or Swanley.

Royal Mail"s next two mail centre clousre plans include a review of the North East of England and the South East of England the rumours for this part of the country is that only Jubilee , Gatwick and one other new build mail centre covering Dover, Canterbury , Dartford and Tonbridge will remain open.

These mail centre reviews were planned some time ago , and will happen with or without a national agreement in the same way as the North West review has and the south midlands review.

what about the South West, any news for down there Dingo ?

[BELIAL]

You are all just counting down the days.
As long as DSA continues then all MC's are on a one way trip to privatisation. C'mon folks take a look at which way the wind is blowing

[hubbahubba]

You are all just counting down the days.
As long as DSA continues then all MC's are on a one way trip to privatisation. C'mon folks take a look at which way the wind is blowing

who's going to process the collection then?the meter?the ppi?the mailsort?the rts/forwards??????

[Tman]

You are all just counting down the days.
As long as DSA continues then all MC's are on a one way trip to privatisation. C'mon folks take a look at which way the wind is blowing

who's going to process the collection then?the meter?the ppi?the mailsort?the rts/forwards??????

Yeah, the logic was lost on me too. DSA+MCs= MC privatisation?

[BELIAL]

Easy meter and ppi will switch to private providers, mailsort will vanish as the move continues to DSA,Collections and rts will be two stage with initial sorting carried out by collection offices and will all be treated as 3rd class mail. Well thats how you would do it if profit was the main concern

[hubbahubba]

Easy meter and ppi will switch to private providers, mailsort will vanish as the move continues to DSA,Collections and rts will be two stage with initial sorting carried out by collection offices and will all be treated as 3rd class mail. Well thats how you would do it if profit was the main concern

you seen something we aint?

[Tman]

Easy meter and ppi will switch to private providers, mailsort will vanish as the move continues to DSA,Collections and rts will be two stage with initial sorting carried out by collection offices and will all be treated as 3rd class mail. Well thats how you would do it if profit was the main concern

you seen something we aint?

Shouldn't worry too much over this lot. Meter and PPI "private providers" (whoever they're supposed to be) don't have RM's infrastructure and will continue to use the RM /MC network; DSA is MC processed, and collection mail etc will still go to MCs for processing (whoever "collection offices" are supposed to be?)

[TrueBlueTerrier]

To be honest as a delivery Postman I have always thought that the Network and Mail Centre side of the business has always been a part of Royal Mails business that can be sold off piecemeal as single business units.

Would I agree with it, NO.

But from a business point of view only it has the volumes to generate profit, even if they are falling. It has a captive market (delivery offices). Money could be saved by transferring all machines and employees within a unit to the new owner, who would only have to follow TUPE for those in employment at the time of the transfer. New employees would be hired on worse conditions. DSA suppliers could actually buy out RM MCs and sort their own mail for distribution round the RM network. ROMEC could be used on a geographical basis and would be called in only for tasks beyond local/companies engineers remit on a call out basis. The Delivery offices would (via a Royal Mail Contract) pay for each individual item of mail passed to them. This approach would allow the Delivery local collection side of RM to continue, probably subsidised, and help keep the USO going.

[Tman]

DSA suppliers could actually buy out RM MCs and sort their own mail for distribution round the RM network.

Why would they want to input that level of capital investment? They're getting it done now for pennies.
But hypothetically, it would only make any sense if one company bought the lot, and who's got that much cash to throw around?

ROMEC could be used on a geographical basis and would be called in only for tasks beyond local/companies engineers remit on a call out basis.

What, just like now then?

The Delivery offices would (via a Royal Mail Contract) pay for each individual item of mail passed to them. This approach would allow the Delivery local collection side of RM to continue, probably subsidised, and help keep the USO going.

Yep, and equally Nostradamus' predictions could also come true, in which case none of it would matter...

[POSTMAN]

DSA suppliers could actually buy out RM MCs and sort their own mail for distribution round the RM network.

Why would they want to input that level of capital investment? They're getting it done now for pennies.
But hypothetically, it would only make any sense if one company bought the lot, and who's got that much cash to throw around?

ROMEC could be used on a geographical basis and would be called in only for tasks beyond local/companies engineers remit on a call out basis.

What, just like now then?

The Delivery offices would (via a Royal Mail Contract) pay for each individual item of mail passed to them. This approach would allow the Delivery local collection side of RM to continue, probably subsidised, and help keep the USO going.

Yep, and equally Nostradamus' predictions could also come true, in which case none of it would matter...

You know what Tman,actually i'll hold my tongue,or rather my fingers,my point being how rude you post.And you wonder why others on here dismiss your posts.

[Tman]

You know what Tman,actually i'll hold my tongue,or rather my fingers,my point being how rude you post.And you wonder why others on here dismiss your posts.

I don't "wonder" at all, but then what's the point of a forum full of the same boring old :mfo :mfo :mfo which is how it used to be? Even us "half-educated tossers" and "Nazi p****s" and "knob knob knobs" have the right to give as well as receive, surely?
{Or do the old "you're so rude" comments still go in certain directions more than others? }

[POSTMAN]

You know what Tman,actually i'll hold my tongue,or rather my fingers,my point being how rude you post.And you wonder why others on here dismiss your posts.

I don't "wonder" at all, but then what's the point of a forum full of the same boring old :mfo :mfo :mfo which is how it used to be? Even us "half-educated tossers" and "Nazi p****s" and "knob knob knobs" have the right to give as well as receive, surely?
{Or do the old "you're so rude" comments still go in certain directions more than others? }

But your reply to teebs (and others at times) did not warrant it,did it,so you you admit it then yes!

[BELIAL]

DSA suppliers could actually buy out RM MCs and sort their own mail for distribution round the RM network.

Why would they want to input that level of capital investment? They're getting it done now for pennies.
But hypothetically, it would only make any sense if one company bought the lot, and who's got that much cash to throw around?

That sounds like a fair argument but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
True they make a profit now, but I think it's common knowledge that there is not a private company in the land that would walk away from a guaranteed massive rise in profit.
True the purchase price would be large , but not as big as it would have been before this closure program. You must have noticed that successive governments have a long and well established record of selling off public assets at bargain basement prices. In fact I can't recall a single instance of any privatisation free money bonanza failing to attract the required capital investment, I seem to remember lots of bidders falling over each other in desperation to fill up their pockets.
If I was you I would not place too much hope in the belief that competitors will be happy to simply accept static profit levels and look a gift horse in the mouth, or that investors will turn their backs on a free money issue.
Quite interesting that your MC is now no longer loosing work to DSA providers , you might want to share this info. with HQ . Can you tell us how you managed it? It could save jobs

[Tman]

Quite interesting that your MC is now no longer loosing work to DSA providers , you might want to share this info. with HQ . Can you tell us how you managed it?

I didn't manage anything, but some days and some shifts the MC is full of nothing but DSA. "Loosing" that would mean the MC would no longer be viable in it's present form, but then quite where that mail could be lost to, is puzzling. Do you know?
In the meantime, I'm sure HQ know only too well the implications of DSA mail.

[POSTMAN]

Here's a thought (i've calmed down now) what would stop others,the DSA leeches that is doing perhaps walksorted,or more of it if they do it already,and possibly walk sequencing it!