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Does anyone work on the sequencing machines?
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24601
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Re: Does anyone work on the sequencing machines?
£70.66 night shift allowance,£21.20 TPM allowance per week
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andy082009
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Re: Does anyone work on the sequencing machines?
In our place the lads who work on the machines work 10 hour shifts, 23:00 - 09:00....and there shifts rotate weekly. One week first four nights, Sunday night start, next week last four nights, next week split shift etc etc.scooby wrote:12 to 8 we have been told but have no clue on the pay grade for working nights also told you get paid extra for cleaning the machines ? any one working on them now no they pay rate ?
They get the night allowance worth about £80 (ish) and TPM allowance is worth about £25 a week to.
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SWIM
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Re: Does anyone work on the sequencing machines?
these machines are made out by RM to be some sort of holy grail.
but how much time do they actually save??
but how much time do they actually save??
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DGP1
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Re: Does anyone work on the sequencing machines?
between 10 and 20 minutes of prep time (first figure is from the CWU and the second from RM).SWIM wrote:these machines are made out by RM to be some sort of holy grail.
but how much time do they actually save??
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Spedley
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We've been told 11:30 until 7:30. Understandably the DOM only wants Sunday and Friday (nights) as rotating days off but he seems to think people will want to work their day off at SA rate. Mmmm.
We've also been told 2 hours on the machine and the some unknown time off the machine. The time off the machine would be spent prepping walks in the office and other things - whatever they are.
I can imagine the machine saving a lot of time, especially as our office usually only gets 60% mech. If they can bump that up to 90% mech, not to mention sequencing then we'd save a lot in IPS time.
You could then sack all the full timers and get permanent temps to deliver the mail
I don't think Sequencing is the way forward, however I do believe it is part of the way forward.
EDIT: it may only save 20 minutes prep time for somebody who knows the walk but if you are a temp or new to duty then it could easily save 50%
We've also been told 2 hours on the machine and the some unknown time off the machine. The time off the machine would be spent prepping walks in the office and other things - whatever they are.
I can imagine the machine saving a lot of time, especially as our office usually only gets 60% mech. If they can bump that up to 90% mech, not to mention sequencing then we'd save a lot in IPS time.
You could then sack all the full timers and get permanent temps to deliver the mail
I don't think Sequencing is the way forward, however I do believe it is part of the way forward.
EDIT: it may only save 20 minutes prep time for somebody who knows the walk but if you are a temp or new to duty then it could easily save 50%
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SWIM
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Re: Does anyone work on the sequencing machines?
millions spent on new machines,our start times will be a lot later and delivery spans increased...all for the sake of saving 15 minutes prep??DGP1 wrote:between 10 and 20 minutes of prep time (first figure is from the CWU and the second from RM).SWIM wrote:these machines are made out by RM to be some sort of holy grail.
but how much time do they actually save??
or am I missing something?
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dropbag_clone
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Re: Does anyone work on the sequencing machines?
millions spent on new machines,our start times will be a lot later and delivery spans increased...all for the sake of saving 15 minutes prep??
or am I missing something?
Its not about spending millions to reduce a full timers prep time by 15 minutes, its about setting up a system where a huge majority of the workforce are part time, with no long term commitment to the job, and little need to train them on any preparation of mail within the office. More part time employment means the wages bill will be reduced, less overheads with people on shorter hours.
Delivery staff will arrive at the office, collect their mail and go out and deliver. They have spent all this money on machinery to keep costs down, and fixed. The human side of their costs involves paying the foot soldiers to deliver, at the moment there is no alternative to having a person deliver the mail. Having a person on a short, part time contract helps to drive the cost of this down.
So everything that is being done is about forcing the cost of doing it down. Quality of service now means can it be done for less, not getting mail to the receiver before their breakfast, or before the office opens.
Will it work? Who knows....but some people at the top of Royal Mail have staked their reputation on it working. It’s a gamble. Maybe the last throw of their managerial dice before it all proves to be a disaster, time will tell.
or am I missing something?
Its not about spending millions to reduce a full timers prep time by 15 minutes, its about setting up a system where a huge majority of the workforce are part time, with no long term commitment to the job, and little need to train them on any preparation of mail within the office. More part time employment means the wages bill will be reduced, less overheads with people on shorter hours.
Delivery staff will arrive at the office, collect their mail and go out and deliver. They have spent all this money on machinery to keep costs down, and fixed. The human side of their costs involves paying the foot soldiers to deliver, at the moment there is no alternative to having a person deliver the mail. Having a person on a short, part time contract helps to drive the cost of this down.
So everything that is being done is about forcing the cost of doing it down. Quality of service now means can it be done for less, not getting mail to the receiver before their breakfast, or before the office opens.
Will it work? Who knows....but some people at the top of Royal Mail have staked their reputation on it working. It’s a gamble. Maybe the last throw of their managerial dice before it all proves to be a disaster, time will tell.
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Big Daz
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Re: Does anyone work on the sequencing machines?
SWIM wrote:these machines are made out by RM to be some sort of holy grail.
but how much time do they actually save??
Depends on the speed you sort at with unsequenced mail, the faster posties would see less of a time saving.
If you mange 30 items a minute of sequenced mail into the RM2000 frame, you would be working at a perfectley reasonable speed.