26k minimum IMP thruput an hour?

[hubbahubba]

All shifts been told to aim for minimum 26k an Hr per IMP.Anyone else had this pushed down their throat?

[DGP1]

Wait until dingo comes along, he'll blame you and your rep for this.

[teesdale]

Havent really had a throughput target. Had a whole shift target which went from 155,000 down to 135,000 and now is 120,000. The 120,000 coincided with loads more time spent on cleaning the IMP. Our whole day average is usually 130,000. What the skills gap supervisors fail to grasp is that the machine only works as well as the engineers have maintained it. With not enough time or money to fix things properly then a perfectly working IMP is rarely presented to the operators to use. Any critism should have a disscussion of the the amount of down time as well as the total number of small jams. Also access to the last three months figures to prove your average is good enough. Inclusion that the duty holders are not always on the machine, such as breaks covered by meal relief, holidays and sickness and so are unblameworthy. Also the time that mail is not presented to the A or B feed, any gaps. The type of mail - Mailsort 3 always stuck together and curled, tip out a bag into the A feed and its nearly all flats so no letters going up to the drum. The final reason why the operators are never to blame is that they tell the supervisor what is wrong with the machine but the message is never passed on leaving you to somehow convince the engineer to fix it yourself ( which is not part of your job ). Most supervisors have no IMP experience at all so just close their ears and walk away.

[hubbahubba]

Wait until dingo comes along, he'll blame you and your rep for this.

This is not anthing i,or anyone else wants or is aiming for,its management pushing for more work from less staff as usual to feather their own nests with juicy bonuses,while we toil for a year on year pay CUT,so they can stick it.Ill do my job as per usual,if it aint good enough,thats their problem!

[Badwolf]

Wait until dingo comes along, he'll blame you and your rep for this.

This is not anthing i,or anyone else wants or is aiming for,its management pushing for more work from less staff as usual to feather their own nests with juicy bonuses,while we toil for a year on year pay CUT,so they can stick it.Ill do my job as per usual,if it aint good enough,thats their problem!

No problems on lates in our MC, what with the Ags and managers we got we are lucky to 15K a hour

[cardiff-nights]

what they ask for & what they get are 2 different things, i work an imp during nights..if we have the work, we do 180.000 plus..but imps play up,whatever mail you put through it, wcm doesnt make a blind bit of difference either..my theory is if they ask for 26k and get near 20 they will be happy..same old s**t

[Tillard]

I'm an engineer based at Southampton and the imp operators target is 29k per hour on all shifts! The management are becoming very pushy towards both operators and engineers! morale is the lowest I've ever seen in an MC and I worked at a few! It's the shape of things to come

[bobbyden]

I'm an engineer based at Southampton and the imp operators target is 29k per hour on all shifts! The management are becoming very pushy towards both operators and engineers! morale is the lowest I've ever seen in an MC and I worked at a few! It's the shape of things to come

I could not agree with you more. The management are thinking about all those lovely bonuses they could miss out on if the targets are not met. The fact is, they have no respect for people. Your mail centre is no different than the one I work in. The atmosphere is terrible and you can see the stress, isolation and despair etched out on peoples' faces. I am relieved, if nothing else, when it is time to go home.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

As a Delivery member I would like to chip in one thing. I honestly believe that these 2 "gentlemen" :cfo :lfo will go in history for dehumanising Royal Mail.

We have gone from a well respected job where people invariably went that extra mile to make sure the work was done, to a strife ridden, soulless, profit driven workplace where people are seen as a resource to exploited rather than an asset to be encouraged. The worst of it is that now people seem genuinely embarrassed to work for Royal Mail.

Well done :lfo :cfo I firmly believe that was your intention from the beginning.

[bobbyden]

As a Delivery member I would like to chip in one thing. I honestly believe that these 2 "gentlemen" :cfo :lfo will go in history for dehumanising Royal Mail.

We have gone from a well respected job where people invariably went that extra mile to make sure the work was done, to a strife ridden, soulless, profit driven workplace where people are seen as a resource to exploited rather than an asset to be encouraged. The worst of it is that now people seem genuinely embarrassed to work for Royal Mail.

Well done :lfo :cfo I firmly believe that was your intention from the beginning.

I agree wholeheartedly with everything you say. I haven't a clue what Leighton is doing at the moment, but of course, Adam Crozier, is the new high profile, Chief Executive at ITV. Only got the job because nobody else in their right mind wanted a berth on this sinking ship. It has not taken Adam long to show how equally inept he is with matters relating to television as he was more often than not with postal issues. The BBC will not lose much shuteye with this deadloss at the helm.

In all the years I have spent at the Royal Mail, I have never seen how poor we have become in workplace morale. Exploitation is a very correct analysis of the way management go about things. On another thread, I talk about the bonus rewards available to managers, an incentive pushed very much so by Adam Crozier. Because the payments are so lucrative, it has created the exploitation of staff for the sole purpose of lining their pockets with extortionate rewards. They prey on the goodwill of people and realise they will go further than they should do to meet the unseemly targets and performance ratios which are now the only game in town at mailcentres nationwide.

I voted firmly against the agreement on this premise and I will be surprised if it lasts three years on the current state of play.

As for the future, the two biggest problems we face are DSA and forthcoming privatisation. Without a doubt, Downstream Access has had a devastating impact on what was already fragile income and with our cost base higher than our bloodsucking friends at TNT and UK Mail, it has made life increasingly difficult for mail centre staff. I would have an element of sympathy for managers in their need to reduce the cost base to reduce the impact of DSA, but instead, I have nothing but contempt for these parasites because of the horrendous bonus structure which is theirs for the taking, at the expense of the staff.

DSA was born in 2003, agreements signed by Adam Crozier, very well publicised in that dreadful COURIER newspaper, if you can call it that. Principled people would never have let that stuff through the door but principle is something Adam Crozier has never had and never will have. It is degrading to say the least that we are at the behest of TNT and the rest, who basically make money out of the Royal Mail for doing absolutely nothing. Yes, banks, supermarket chains, insurance companies etc get a marginally( I stress the word 'marginally') cheaper product, but the real saving is the added burden placed upon Royal Mail staff in processing and delivery offices. Meanwhile, our parasitic managers think about the bonus payments and take them without conscience or shame.

The privatisation, with the Conservative Party in the driving seat looks a real disaster in the making. The hot favourite is TNT and they will get a real slice of the cake for a much cheaper investment than the one Labour offered them in 2008. We have already seen a raid on our pensions and the overall fall in their value. The worst is still to come and the reality is that all of us,and that strangely enough also includes the managers had better make alternative provisions to fund our respective years in retirement. The overall impact is less commitment from the employer and less for us the employees. I am totally opposed to privatisation in any shape or form. It is wrong for the Royal Mail and wrong for us. The Royal Mail, not unlike the BBC and the National Health Service is admired the world over and is looked upon as one of the greatest assets this country has. The Royal Mail is not something to be auctioned off in the manner proposed by the Conservative Party. It is something to be upheld and firmly recognised as a PUBLIC SERVICE. I am growing sick and tired of the constant tacky reference 'the business'. It is 'the business' which has contributed greatly to our problems. Managers constantly refer to the Royal Mail as a 'business'. Hardly surprising from these bunch of halfwits, no doubt influenced by the reference, first applied by Leighton and Crozier in the early days to what the Royal Mail should become. I will not live long enough for that to be a success story! The sooner we get away from grubby ideology and banish for good any thoughts of the Royal Mail being something it can never aspire to, the better potentially for all of us. Sadly though, I am not all that optimistic on that one.

[hubbahubba]

As a Delivery member I would like to chip in one thing. I honestly believe that these 2 "gentlemen" :cfo :lfo will go in history for dehumanising Royal Mail.

We have gone from a well respected job where people invariably went that extra mile to make sure the work was done, to a strife ridden, soulless, profit driven workplace where people are seen as a resource to exploited rather than an asset to be encouraged. The worst of it is that now people seem genuinely embarrassed to work for Royal Mail.

Well done :lfo :cfo I firmly believe that was your intention from the beginning.

I agree wholeheartedly with everything you say. I haven't a clue what Leighton is doing at the moment, but of course, Adam Crozier, is the new high profile, Chief Executive at ITV. Only got the job because nobody else in their right mind wanted a berth on this sinking ship. It has not taken Adam long to show how equally inept he is with matters relating to television as he was more often than not with postal issues. The BBC will not lose much shuteye with this deadloss at the helm.

In all the years I have spent at the Royal Mail, I have never seen how poor we have become in workplace morale. Exploitation is a very correct analysis of the way management go about things. On another thread, I talk about the bonus rewards available to managers, an incentive pushed very much so by Adam Crozier. Because the payments are so lucrative, it has created the exploitation of staff for the sole purpose of lining their pockets with extortionate rewards. They prey on the goodwill of people and realise they will go further than they should do to meet the unseemly targets and performance ratios which are now the only game in town at mailcentres nationwide.

I voted firmly against the agreement on this premise and I will be surprised if it lasts three years on the current state of play.

As for the future, the two biggest problems we face are DSA and forthcoming privatisation. Without a doubt, Downstream Access has had a devastating impact on what was already fragile income and with our cost base higher than our bloodsucking friends at TNT and UK Mail, it has made life increasingly difficult for mail centre staff. I would have an element of sympathy for managers in their need to reduce the cost base to reduce the impact of DSA, but instead, I have nothing but contempt for these parasites because of the horrendous bonus structure which is theirs for the taking, at the expense of the staff.

DSA was born in 2003, agreements signed by Adam Crozier, very well publicised in that dreadful COURIER newspaper, if you can call it that. Principled people would never have let that stuff through the door but principle is something Adam Crozier has never had and never will have. It is degrading to say the least that we are at the behest of TNT and the rest, who basically make money out of the Royal Mail for doing absolutely nothing. Yes, banks, supermarket chains, insurance companies etc get a marginally( I stress the word 'marginally') cheaper product, but the real saving is the added burden placed upon Royal Mail staff in processing and delivery offices. Meanwhile, our parasitic managers think about the bonus payments and take them without conscience or shame.

The privatisation, with the Conservative Party in the driving seat looks a real disaster in the making. The hot favourite is TNT and they will get a real slice of the cake for a much cheaper investment than the one Labour offered them in 2008. We have already seen a raid on our pensions and the overall fall in their value. The worst is still to come and the reality is that all of us,and that strangely enough also includes the managers had better make alternative provisions to fund our respective years in retirement. The overall impact is less commitment from the employer and less for us the employees. I am totally opposed to privatisation in any shape or form. It is wrong for the Royal Mail and wrong for us. The Royal Mail, not unlike the BBC and the National Health Service is admired the world over and is looked upon as one of the greatest assets this country has. The Royal Mail is not something to be auctioned off in the manner proposed by the Conservative Party. It is something to be upheld and firmly recognised as a PUBLIC SERVICE. I am growing sick and tired of the constant tacky reference 'the business'. It is 'the business' which has contributed greatly to our problems. Managers constantly refer to the Royal Mail as a 'business'. Hardly surprising from these bunch of halfwits, no doubt influenced by the reference, first applied by Leighton and Crozier in the early days to what the Royal Mail should become. I will not live long enough for that to be a success story! The sooner we get away from grubby ideology and banish for good any thoughts of the Royal Mail being something it can never aspire to, the better potentially for all of us. Sadly though, I am not all that optimistic on that one.