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4.5 or 5hr walks
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mclovin
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Re: 4.5 or 5hr walks
Dont blame the rep, it was your decision at the end of the day.
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Member 34
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Re: 4.5 or 5hr walks
Is anyone qualified to rule on health and safety involved in these talks?
The CWU and Royal Mail can agree what they like but if 4-5 hour walks are deemed unsafe (which I believe they should be) then we won't be doing them.
The CWU and Royal Mail can agree what they like but if 4-5 hour walks are deemed unsafe (which I believe they should be) then we won't be doing them.
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Darren Bent
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Re: 4.5 or 5hr walks
Is sound like a bad idea.
Due to making everyone too tired after work to do other things ie Salsa Dancing and studying for me.
What happens if we were hammered on Saturday and it would make our life more difficult ie family outing, football supporting, sport events
Lot more injuries due to increased workload and leave a bit of chaos if there are lot of injuries in similar timeframe. Cost more money on sick leaves and paperwork and paying people to leave and ATOS advices.
Royal Mail doesn't think carefully about it.
Due to making everyone too tired after work to do other things ie Salsa Dancing and studying for me.
What happens if we were hammered on Saturday and it would make our life more difficult ie family outing, football supporting, sport events
Lot more injuries due to increased workload and leave a bit of chaos if there are lot of injuries in similar timeframe. Cost more money on sick leaves and paperwork and paying people to leave and ATOS advices.
Royal Mail doesn't think carefully about it.
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mclovin
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Re: 4.5 or 5hr walks
Postcomm rules
Why does my mail arrive later than it used to? In 2004, Royal Mail decided to reduce the number of daily deliveries to all homes and businesses in the UK from two to one, in order to cut costs and improve efficiency. Mail in urban areas should now be delivered by 2pm, and in rural areas by 3pm. Precise times depend on how the postman’s delivery round is set out, which is an operational issue for Royal Mail.
Surely then its actually ILLEGAL to be delivering letters on a town walk AFTER 2pm???
Why does my mail arrive later than it used to? In 2004, Royal Mail decided to reduce the number of daily deliveries to all homes and businesses in the UK from two to one, in order to cut costs and improve efficiency. Mail in urban areas should now be delivered by 2pm, and in rural areas by 3pm. Precise times depend on how the postman’s delivery round is set out, which is an operational issue for Royal Mail.
Surely then its actually ILLEGAL to be delivering letters on a town walk AFTER 2pm???
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IcanthelpthewayIam
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Re: 4.5 or 5hr walks
the answers in the quote, it says should not must, therefore unfortuantely not against the USO, if it is happening regularly the general public really should start to complain if they are not happy about it, if they dont postcomm is not going to be bothered about a load of pissed off posties having to work later if the general public are not concerned about getting their mail later in the day,mclovin wrote:Postcomm rules
Why does my mail arrive later than it used to? In 2004, Royal Mail decided to reduce the number of daily deliveries to all homes and businesses in the UK from two to one, in order to cut costs and improve efficiency. Mail in urban areas should now be delivered by 2pm, and in rural areas by 3pm. Precise times depend on how the postman’s delivery round is set out, which is an operational issue for Royal Mail.
Surely then its actually ILLEGAL to be delivering letters on a town walk AFTER 2pm???
now dont forget, we are also "the general public" as well as being posties, so maybe we should all complain as private individuals, wonder what would happen then
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clashcityrocker
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Re: 4.5 or 5hr walks
That's why RM have asked to put back the times to 3pm for towns and 4pm for rurals.Later starts and later finishes.mclovin wrote:Postcomm rules
Why does my mail arrive later than it used to? In 2004, Royal Mail decided to reduce the number of daily deliveries to all homes and businesses in the UK from two to one, in order to cut costs and improve efficiency. Mail in urban areas should now be delivered by 2pm, and in rural areas by 3pm. Precise times depend on how the postman’s delivery round is set out, which is an operational issue for Royal Mail.
Surely then its actually ILLEGAL to be delivering letters on a town walk AFTER 2pm???
But it is not illegal.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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mclovin
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Re: 4.5 or 5hr walks
Not according to Postcomm they havent. I shall email them again as this was 12 months ago,clashcityrocker wrote:That's why RM have asked to put back the times to 3pm for towns and 4pm for rurals.Later starts and later finishes.mclovin wrote:Postcomm rules
Why does my mail arrive later than it used to? In 2004, Royal Mail decided to reduce the number of daily deliveries to all homes and businesses in the UK from two to one, in order to cut costs and improve efficiency. Mail in urban areas should now be delivered by 2pm, and in rural areas by 3pm. Precise times depend on how the postman’s delivery round is set out, which is an operational issue for Royal Mail.
Surely then its actually ILLEGAL to be delivering letters on a town walk AFTER 2pm???
Thank you for your email.
Postcomm does not regulate Royal Mail's collection and delivery times. We do not have the remit, under Royal Mail's licence, to specify collection and delivery times. Royal Mail aims to complete deliveries by 2pm in urban areas and by 3pm in rural areas. We are not aware, and have not been informed, of any changes to this.
Michelle Koretz
Policy Officer, Universal Service and Customer Protection Directorate
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lateagian
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Re: 4.5 or 5hr walks
What I would like to know is what whether the union feel's thay are moving forward with our conditions or moving backward's.
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Lincox
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Re: 4.5 or 5hr walks
What the fck is going on. Why are u people even discussing these issues with these managers who are working totally outside of the talks. Wait until the CWU put the propositions to us and then we can either agree and get on with the job, or more than is likely tell them to go and get minced, and fight to protect decent standards of employment. We have nothing to lose. If we all keep listening to these mutton head managers, some, not all will start believing that its a done deal. Stop listening to them and start believing in the rights for fair pay and conditions of employment.
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jockstrapp
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Re: 4.5 or 5hr walks
been doing 4.15hr walks for about a year now ..........totally F#cked .............cut offs every day...............agreed locally..........advised by cwu to accept as it put more on fulltime but the job is plsh................bring on 5hr duties .....they won't have to worry about the pension deficit as we'll be f#ckin dead

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Exrep
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Re: 4.5 or 5hr walks
Late im in my late 30s and im more than concerned at longer del spans i really do feel sorry for the older brigade at this prospect. Lets hope it doesnt happenlateagian wrote:the over 50's in our office are more then worried about the length the walk's will now be. We tried to get a hold of someone from the CWU but their phone went onto voice mail, as of yet we have not heard a word from them.MoNkEyBoY wrote:2 men in a cdv with golf trolleys in the back they reckon 60% less sorting on the ips oh and by the way you will be doing 2.5-3 beats between the both of you.
Great if this becomes reality i cant wait NOOOTTTTT.
Theres the possabilty of splitting it into 2 deliveries aswell depending on your local agreement as ive allways said if this becomes reality im leaving the CWU and at present im a great follower of the CWU and will be sad to leave but if this is the best they can do for me then forget it.
But lets just see what comes out of the talks nothink is written in stone yet
You forgot to mention the limit being lifted on d2ds say bye-bye to 3 more like 5-6
Can anyone please tell me how the feck is this modernisation
“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.”
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krussel
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Re: 4.5 or 5hr walks
Your not the only one i am early forties and struggling already.MoNkEyBoY wrote:Late im in my late 30s and im more than concerned at longer del spans i really do feel sorry for the older brigade at this prospect. Lets hope it doesnt happenlateagian wrote:the over 50's in our office are more then worried about the length the walk's will now be. We tried to get a hold of someone from the CWU but their phone went onto voice mail, as of yet we have not heard a word from them.MoNkEyBoY wrote:2 men in a cdv with golf trolleys in the back they reckon 60% less sorting on the ips oh and by the way you will be doing 2.5-3 beats between the both of you.
Great if this becomes reality i cant wait NOOOTTTTT.
Theres the possabilty of splitting it into 2 deliveries aswell depending on your local agreement as ive allways said if this becomes reality im leaving the CWU and at present im a great follower of the CWU and will be sad to leave but if this is the best they can do for me then forget it.
But lets just see what comes out of the talks nothink is written in stone yet
You forgot to mention the limit being lifted on d2ds say bye-bye to 3 more like 5-6
Can anyone please tell me how the feck is this modernisation
Rows of houses all bearing down on me........I can feel their blue hands touching me.......All these things in all positions.........All these things will one day take control..........
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Exrep
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Re: 4.5 or 5hr walks
My info has came from my area rep not a manager as ours so cluless it beggars beliefLincox wrote:What the fck is going on. Why are u people even discussing these issues with these managers who are working totally outside of the talks. Wait until the CWU put the propositions to us and then we can either agree and get on with the job, or more than is likely tell them to go and get minced, and fight to protect decent standards of employment. We have nothing to lose. If we all keep listening to these mutton head managers, some, not all will start believing that its a done deal. Stop listening to them and start believing in the rights for fair pay and conditions of employment.
“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.”
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jessicarabbit
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- Joined: 05 Nov 2009, 19:57
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Re: 4.5 or 5hr walks
Check previous posts by dingo who apparently is close to the talks. Longer spans will be up for local agreements. No longer a limit of 3.5 hrs facilitated by shared vans more HCTs etc. How will they get us to vote this in..........Remember those colleague shares that we were supposed to be getting next year. I reckon (personal opinon) they will offer us a one off payment of £5,000 (pro rata for PTs - sorry guys) to sign away our T&Cs and welcome in a new era of deliveries no one over 30 need apply.
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pony
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Re: 4.5 or 5hr walks
If it happens then i'm out.
I really can not do it.Its not the bloody SAS.
I'll either have to go to a mail centre or apply at the local tesco.
5 hours will become 5 and a half and i have no social life now due to being constantly knackered.
I really can not do it.Its not the bloody SAS.
I'll either have to go to a mail centre or apply at the local tesco.
5 hours will become 5 and a half and i have no social life now due to being constantly knackered.