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BBC PANORAMA DISCUSSION THREAD

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Funked! wrote:
Who promotes halfwits like Tolhursrt in the first place!?
Halfwits like Crozier, I suppose.
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fishtank wrote:I'm running the risk of upsetting you POSTMAN :nervous but i can't see how the CWU can ask the rest of the membership to increase their delivery span to 4hrs to protect fulltime jobs and allow you to keep yours with the use of P/T staff.
I may be missing the point and feel free to correct me if i am.
I wont get upset,i'm ready to answer any questions from anyone :Very Happy

Have made a long winded reply,but have decided to PM due to lurkers,but for others....

In no way are we putting full timers down to part time
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can't wait fer the new year........................... :so there
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k979aaa,
I agree the only way to stop all this crap about longer walk spans is to do the job properly.
I know for a fact that every minute of my 8 hours is accounted for.
6.15 start, sorting and throwing of until 8.50. 40mins M/R.Tying up until 10.
Then 4 hours on the streets,so can anyone tell me where i've got time to do more.
Although nobody wants redundancies, i think the CWU's stance is very worrying.
I feel longer walks will lead to a massive rise in work related injuries.How will that will good for anybody? :whistle
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bexhil palace wrote:6.15 start, sorting and throwing of until 8.50. 40mins M/R.Tying up until 10.
Walk sequencing will as they say will cut down your indoor work there,that is where the problem is for all.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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bexhil palace wrote:k979aaa,
I agree the only way to stop all this crap about longer walk spans is to do the job properly.
I know for a fact that every minute of my 8 hours is accounted for.
6.15 start, sorting and throwing of until 8.50. 40mins M/R.Tying up until 10.
Then 4 hours on the streets,so can anyone tell me where i've got time to do more.
Although nobody wants redundancies, i think the CWU's stance is very worrying.
I feel longer walks will lead to a massive rise in work related injuries.How will that will good for anybody? :whistle
But 4 hours on the road is a long time and is not conducive too all practical problems arising from lack of facilities and fatigue!.
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[hijack]

Isn't it strange that over the last 25hrs there hasn't been a peep from Night Tonic, or Tman, or any of the other usual suspects and apologists?

That is all, thank you

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smokerjim wrote:[hijack]

Isn't it strange that over the last 25hrs there hasn't been a peep from Night Tonic, or Tman, or any of the other usual suspects and apologists?

That is all, thank you

[/hijack]
:chuckle
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Thank you smokerjim was going to put that up myself but guess we know the reason before hand you wont hear a peep out of ' mr royal fail ' and his sidekick buddy :wink:
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mailman337 wrote:
smokerjim wrote:Well worth staying up to watch on iPlayer, but did anyone else see the TNT Mail centre, with the sign and the slogan on the wall ( "TNT Mail - Sure we can" ) and just want to add some graffitti ( "but we f*cking won't!" )
Did you notice the yorks there (wonder if they're paid for) piled 10 FULL trays high ?? !! ........thats private sector health and safety for you !!!...Minimum wage as well I'll wager!! :cfo :cfo :cuppa
Piled high with ROYAL MAIL TRAYS ON ROYAL MAIL YORKS. :cfo :cfo
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Are you sure that them two are not Night Tonic and Tman ?
Just wondering ............. :whistle
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DONT PAINIC!!!!!

I found nighty,he seems to only like CWU threads....

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 15&t=22821" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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axeman wrote:Thank you smokerjim was going to put that up myself but guess we know the reason before hand you wont hear a peep out of ' mr royal fail ' and his sidekick buddy :wink:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_James_Frazer" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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POSTMAN wrote:
bexhil palace wrote:6.15 start, sorting and throwing of until 8.50. 40mins M/R.Tying up until 10.
Walk sequencing will as they say will cut down your indoor work there,that is where the problem is for all.
According to the trial office results walk sequenced mail saves a massive 5-7 mins prep time per walk. Walk sequencing does not increase the amount of mech mail arriving at your DO, it simply means that part of what you formerly got as walksorted is now sequenced. One further point of interest is that it appears that the operational tolerances of the new sequencing machines are lower than the sorting machines that feed them.As a result a percentage of the sorted mail fed into the sequencing machines is rejected and will arrive at your DO as mixed trays requiring inward sorting. Be interested to hear from any compact operators the rough % of rejections.
Bearing in mind the above it is hard to see where the indoor savings come from
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norbert wrote:
stokes11eg wrote:Surprised but pleased that at long last The B.B.C are trying to put acrooss our point of view. Half an hour wasn.t really long enough to hi light every thing, but hopefully the tide will turn, and the Public will see who is really at fault.As another poster said, it would be good ifthey could have brought out the B/H we have to put up with.
Am waiting with glee on any follow up newspaper reports!!
can only find this reaction - think there will be a reviews blackout :hmmmm

http://www.chew-the-fat.com/forum/viewt ... 08&start=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://farmingforum.co.uk/forums/showth ... p?p=362995" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

old article but good points
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opini ... 36473.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

not very fluffy
http://www.postmanchat.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6338" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; " we must sort this P739 problem out :chuckle "

Right Wing Talk Sport Forum " Debate " & " Discussion " :d'oh! - Stormfront or Blood & Honour down again :hmmmm
http://www.talkforum.org/forum/viewtopi ... &start=555" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Poster - Hillman Avenger - " Force yourself to look " etc

http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/87827 ... s-reminded" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
:dance Thanks for all that Norbet--nice to know some people still think we do a good job.