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BBC PANORAMA DISCUSSION THREAD

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Fred B
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dubdaz wrote:What Tolhurst should do is invite panorama back to film him doing that postmans delivery in three'n'half hours walking at 4 mph and completing it.That would prove we're all idle posties who dont want to work the hours paid. :crazy:
Big :Applause for the programme makers,hope most of my customers watched it.

I'd like to know how many hours a week that fat bastard puts in.
Wild Rover
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F@ck - my tips might improve now :P :nana
I-POSTIE
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You'd think with think with all the money Tolhurst has made out of us over the past year he could buy himself a packet of Tunes before he goes on TV. Tunessssssssssss!
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headscrewedon wrote:Did more to inform the public exactly what the issues really are than any of our ineffective CWU leaders have done.
The programme highlighted

unfair workloads
unfair competition
disputed mail volumes
competitors cherry-picking the profitable mail

Well done, Panorama :Applause :Applause :Applause
Well said mate!
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I-POSTIE wrote:You'd think with think with all the money Tolhurst has made out of us over the past year he could buy himself a packet of Tunes before he goes on TV. Tunessssssssssss!
A packet of rat poison would be better!
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Fluke
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IMHO. The only thing that needed to be highlighted a bit more was the fact that your expected to keep up this very physical workrate until your 65. How many 60 year olds can move at 4mph with 16KG for 3.5 hours every working day?
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A packet of rat poison would be better!
:Applause

Just got my self back off the floor
dejavu
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Post by dejavu »

Not saying everyone agrees with them or supports them as this topic isnt about that but it also mentioned at the end about strikes may still be on the cards. At least the customer knows that now and it has been explained why.
norbert
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Fluke wrote:IMHO. The only thing that needed to be highlighted a bit more was the fact that your expected to keep up this very physical workrate until your 65. How many 60 year olds can move at 4mph with 16KG for 3.5 hours every working day?
the Leeds Binmen went on strike partially because of ridiculous rates that were " efficient " - done the job at silly speeds for Cleanaway for a agency , I was the only one that hadn't been in prison :roll: The Agency were always looking for staff :roll:
Dee Plish
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Post by Dee Plish »

Watched the programme with a couple of friends who have put up with my RM rants for years. They can now see I wasn't making it up!

Tolhurst did a magnificent job of proving what inept, arrogant, lying idiots are in charge of this business. The own goal on walking speeds left my pals incredulous. No words from the weasely Crozier, the psycho Higson or the invisible Bryden. Too busy counting their bonuses and pension credits I expect.

They couldn't stop laughing at the Gatwick managers 'been on a course' hand gestures.

Bet we get a work time lies session soon condemming the truths Panorama showed.

Superb work by the BBC. The truth is out.

:cfo :mfo
Fluke
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norbert wrote:
Fluke wrote:IMHO. The only thing that needed to be highlighted a bit more was the fact that your expected to keep up this very physical workrate until your 65. How many 60 year olds can move at 4mph with 16KG for 3.5 hours every working day?
the Leeds Binmen went on strike partially because of ridiculous rates that were " efficient " - done the job at silly speeds for Cleanaway for a agency , I was the only one that hadn't been in prison :roll: The Agency were always looking for staff :roll:
Very true. :Applause You dont see many bin men over 50 years old. We seem to live in a disposable world with a disposable workforce, where the workforce are run into the ground and dumped when you've had the best out of them. :sad:
norbert
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Dee Plish wrote:Watched the programme with a couple of friends who have put up with my RM rants for years. They can now see I wasn't making it up!

Tolhurst did a magnificent job of proving what inept, arrogant, lying idiots are in charge of this business. The own goal on walking speeds left my pals incredulous. No words from the weasely Crozier, the psycho Higson or the invisible Bryden. Too busy counting their bonuses and pension credits I expect.

They couldn't stop laughing at the Gatwick managers 'been on a course' hand gestures.

Bet we get a work time lies session soon condemming the truths Panorama showed.

Superb work by the BBC. The truth is out.

:cfo :mfo
Higson has the look of this fella only with less hair - PMC - " We brought Mark Higson in as the CWU had a veto on everything and we couldn't go forward like that "
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Roy Mayall
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Missed out the MOST important thing which is that Postcomm is not an independent regulator but is stuffed full of the competition. A look at some of the so-called regulators would have been useful.
shadow
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Post by shadow »

tolkien wrote:
morleyposty wrote:totally forgot about the program :crazy:
will view it on the beeb iplayer later :cuppa
its on again fri 0.00 sign zone i think, worth recording
Whats sign zone then?
Judgee
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Post by Judgee »

Well I was dreading watching this and I was very pleasantly surprised. Tolhurst looked like a complete cock and the Postie was in my opinion was a bloody hero for coming on the program and telling the public exactly what its like working for the RM these days.

I only wished the makers had mentioned just how much it costs us to deal with rival mail and the fact that we had no pay rise this year.......unlike crozier who is still creaming money off the "insufficient" profits we are already making :cfo
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