you tease Postman I know you are in the London Region so how comes YOU got a look at this AGREEMENT
before the rest of the Country?????????
ANNOUNCEMENT : ALL OF ROYAL MAIL'S EMPLOYMENT POLICIES (AGREEMENTS) AT A GLANCE (Updated 2021)... HERE
ANNOUNCEMENT : PLEASE BE AWARE WE ARE NOT ON FACEBOOK AT ALL!
LTB UPDATE
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Pat Ostman
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Re: LTB UPDATE
What agreement? The CWU have agreed on something? Or is this the agreement where they agree to do what Crozier says?POSTMAN wrote:Has no one posted the agreement yet?
I saw a draft copy this morning but forgot to bring it home,can't rem much what was in it though,much the same as the last one i think.
Cant believe it's not on the site though!
Run, rabbit run. Dig that hole, forget the sun.
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And when at last the work is done. Don't sit down, it's time to dig another one
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fishtank
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Re: LTB UPDATE
POSTMAN wrote:Has no one posted the agreement yet?
I saw a draft copy this morning but forgot to bring it home,can't rem much what was in it though,much the same as the last one i think.
Cant believe it's not on the site though!
Maybe it's "For your eyes only" Postman
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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Ahebban
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I don't suppose for one second it is a closely guarded secret that any emergent agreement will be very much on the same lines as the 2007-2009 Pay and Modernization Agreement!
What we want to know is whether any, let alone all, of the ambiguities attached to 2007 Pay & Mod have been rectified and the various elements of Phase 4 are alive and kicking and ready for implementation. Don't forget letters were exchanged between CWU and RM acknowledging the need for Phase 4 to be negotiated. Those letters were dated back in September of this year discussing an issue that should have been signed, sealed and delivered back in April 2008!
If RM and CWU couldn't agree on the interpretation of the 2007 Pay & Mod over the space of 2 years there is no effing chance of a totally new agreement appearing by early December meeting all the concerns and aspirations of the membership.
CWU HQ had overwhelming support to maintain the pressure on RM until an Agreement was reached. The fact that HQ have made that task so much more difficult (by suspending industrial action) is the fault of HQ and not that of the membership!
Which is precisely why the LTB released today was a complete waste. The membership knows what it wants .. it gave a majority decision for the mandate to persue the concerns and aspirations by means of industrial action where necessary.
I don't need summaries .. I don't need reports .. I don't need reminding of the key principles .. just get on and do the job you were elected to do!
What we want to know is whether any, let alone all, of the ambiguities attached to 2007 Pay & Mod have been rectified and the various elements of Phase 4 are alive and kicking and ready for implementation. Don't forget letters were exchanged between CWU and RM acknowledging the need for Phase 4 to be negotiated. Those letters were dated back in September of this year discussing an issue that should have been signed, sealed and delivered back in April 2008!
If RM and CWU couldn't agree on the interpretation of the 2007 Pay & Mod over the space of 2 years there is no effing chance of a totally new agreement appearing by early December meeting all the concerns and aspirations of the membership.
CWU HQ had overwhelming support to maintain the pressure on RM until an Agreement was reached. The fact that HQ have made that task so much more difficult (by suspending industrial action) is the fault of HQ and not that of the membership!
Which is precisely why the LTB released today was a complete waste. The membership knows what it wants .. it gave a majority decision for the mandate to persue the concerns and aspirations by means of industrial action where necessary.
I don't need summaries .. I don't need reports .. I don't need reminding of the key principles .. just get on and do the job you were elected to do!
Ahebban - anglo-saxon in origin - meaning 'Wages War'
What counts is not necessarily the size of the dog in the fight, what counts is the size of the fight in the dog. - Mark Twain
What counts is not necessarily the size of the dog in the fight, what counts is the size of the fight in the dog. - Mark Twain
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nomates
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Re: LTB UPDATE
I heard that in London RM have agreed to go to ACAS. That sorts them out, what about the rest of us?
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norbert
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Re: LTB UPDATE
RM will go for the toughest and hardest scalp and hope the rest of the country will fall like a pack of cards . RM picked fights and orchestrated strikes in London in Summer which is traditionally an easy time for RM .flaminmoses wrote:steven100 wrote:The thing which is disturbing is London seems to the only problem in the country. Looks like RM are going to achieve a divide and conquer. I don't think many people will walkout for London anymore. Blame the union.
well seems divide and conquer has hooked you sunshine.
dont bite.
royal mail have been after us for ages and we have taken s**t loads of days action to stop them and them steaming into you lot.
we lose you will certainly lose
In the past they've attacked Bristol and Burslem - it's no coincidence - all well organised strongholds .
Just look at some of the postings by the RM plants on Postman Fluffy
London & West Scotland bailed the rest of the country out in 2003 when the Union was on it's knees - so staff would have a union to complain about .
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POSTMAN
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Re: LTB UPDATE
Sorry guys lol,will scan it and post it as soon as i get in tomm,but chances are someone else might have it.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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2leftfeet
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Re: LTB UPDATE
Hurry upPOSTMAN wrote:Sorry guys lol,will scan it and post it as soon as i get in tomm,but chances are someone else might have it.
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not me
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Re: LTB UPDATE
POSTMAN wrote:Sorry guys lol,will scan it and post it as soon as i get in tomm,but chances are someone else might have it.
just go in early
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POSTMAN
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I meant someone else might have it to post on here.custard wrote:POSTMAN wrote:Sorry guys lol,will scan it and post it as soon as i get in tomm,but chances are someone else might have it.
just go in early
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.