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Evidence for 5hr Delivery spans ?

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stokes11eg
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Re: Evidence for 5hr Delivery spans ?

Post by stokes11eg »

:crazy: Take note or the 'phased in over 3years' this will never happen, and will change in the telling as so many other deals have been. this is the carrot, that R/M pull from you right at the last minute. do not forget they are still trying to sell us off, and all those 'long term' agreements mean nothing.
fishtank
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Re: Evidendence for 5hr Delivery spans ?

Post by fishtank »

OnAFlyer wrote:
infidel wrote:talk is 3.5 using bag,4.5 using elec trolley,5.00 van share. 35 week,6 d2d per week built into workload.£400 per wk,
phased in over three years?.

:no no :no no :no no :no no :no no
I'd take that - 35hr week for £400? That's nearly £12 per hour, has anyone looked at a jobcentre recently and seen how much skilled trades are being paid? Not that much.

If you were delivering 6 D2D you would be on more than that right now.
The 35hrs is a red herring if you are not being paid for your breaks. :d'oh!
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
montriff
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Re: Evidence for 5hr Delivery spans ?

Post by montriff »

if RM and pegasus says its a 5 hour walk you can bet your life it would really take 6 :lfo
DirtyHarry
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Re: Evidence for 5hr Delivery spans ?

Post by DirtyHarry »

montriff wrote:if RM and pegasus says its a 5 hour walk you can bet your life it would really take 6 :lfo
Quite right. With Royal Mail, it's always nowhere anything like it says on the tin.
madelin4
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Re: Evidendence for 5hr Delivery spans ?

Post by madelin4 »

DirtyHarry wrote:Try not to worry yourself sick over this. You can only do what is physically possible for you to do. I do a 7.5 hr day, no OT, no extended, and certainly no 30mins flexibility, or whatever they call that shyte. They can do whatever the hell they like, but they will never force me to go over my time, never. And if my DIM don't like it, tough. :Very Happy
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fishtank
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Re: Evidendence for 5hr Delivery spans ?

Post by fishtank »

madelin4 wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:Try not to worry yourself sick over this. You can only do what is physically possible for you to do. I do a 7.5 hr day, no OT, no extended, and certainly no 30mins flexibility, or whatever they call that shyte. They can do whatever the hell they like, but they will never force me to go over my time, never. And if my DIM don't like it, tough. :Very Happy
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Yeah but what if your 7.5hr day contains a 6hr delivery. :d'oh!
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
mydaily
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Re: Evidence for 5hr Delivery spans ?

Post by mydaily »

Bring it on I'll even have to cut off Saturdays as only work 5hrs a day!
Life's only rosey if you make it that way...... There is life outside of Royal Mail you know!
DirtyHarry
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Re: Evidendence for 5hr Delivery spans ?

Post by DirtyHarry »

fishtank wrote:
madelin4 wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:Try not to worry yourself sick over this. You can only do what is physically possible for you to do. I do a 7.5 hr day, no OT, no extended, and certainly no 30mins flexibility, or whatever they call that shyte. They can do whatever the hell they like, but they will never force me to go over my time, never. And if my DIM don't like it, tough. :Very Happy
:Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause


Yeah but what if your 7.5hr day contains a 6hr delivery. :d'oh!
Then they should really have taken prep time into consideration. I wasn't put on this earth to make Royal Mail's crap planning workable, and especially not at the expense of MY time, or, MY health. I'm at an age now where both are becoming more precious to me, not less.
fishtank
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Re: Evidendence for 5hr Delivery spans ?

Post by fishtank »

DirtyHarry wrote:
fishtank wrote:
madelin4 wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:Try not to worry yourself sick over this. You can only do what is physically possible for you to do. I do a 7.5 hr day, no OT, no extended, and certainly no 30mins flexibility, or whatever they call that shyte. They can do whatever the hell they like, but they will never force me to go over my time, never. And if my DIM don't like it, tough. :Very Happy
:Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause


Yeah but what if your 7.5hr day contains a 6hr delivery. :d'oh!
Then they should really have taken prep time into consideration. I wasn't put on this earth to make Royal Mail's crap planning workable, and especially not at the expense of MY time, or, MY health. I'm at an age now where both are becoming more precious to me, not less.

That's the point Harry the move is towards shorter prep and longer delivery and i will be honest with you i don't think i can do it.
I'm not that old, not that unfit but at the end of a long day i go up the stairs like an eighty year old.
But one thing is for sure RM don't give a sh1t about MY TIME or MY HEALTH. :no no :no no
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
DirtyHarry
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Re: Evidendence for 5hr Delivery spans ?

Post by DirtyHarry »

fishtank wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:
fishtank wrote:
madelin4 wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:Try not to worry yourself sick over this. You can only do what is physically possible for you to do. I do a 7.5 hr day, no OT, no extended, and certainly no 30mins flexibility, or whatever they call that shyte. They can do whatever the hell they like, but they will never force me to go over my time, never. And if my DIM don't like it, tough. :Very Happy
:Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause


Yeah but what if your 7.5hr day contains a 6hr delivery. :d'oh!
Then they should really have taken prep time into consideration. I wasn't put on this earth to make Royal Mail's crap planning workable, and especially not at the expense of MY time, or, MY health. I'm at an age now where both are becoming more precious to me, not less.

That's the point Harry the move is towards shorter prep and longer delivery and i will be honest with you i don't think i can do it.
I'm not that old, not that unfit but at the end of a long day i go up the stairs like an eighty year old.
But one thing is for sure RM don't give a sh1t about MY TIME or MY HEALTH. :no no :no no
Keep battling away, the "shorter prep and longer delivery" is pie-in-the-sky, a 5hr, 6hr delivery will always need the necessary prep, and most of us will never have the time to fit it all in our 7.5hr day.
mclovin
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Re: Evidence for 5hr Delivery spans ?

Post by mclovin »

They'd never get 5 hr delivery in unless they take the weight off your back and the walking off your legs. Even if they had the lot of us 2 men and a little van, thats at a MASSIVE cost, not to mention, a van off the road every 9 days. 5 hrs is far too long and H&S would never go for it. If you're doing between 4 and 5 hours on the streets now, thats bad and you should never have agreed to it.
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Re: Evidence for 5hr Delivery spans ?

Post by DirtyHarry »

mclovin wrote:They'd never get 5 hr delivery in unless they take the weight off your back and the walking off your legs. Even if they had the lot of us 2 men and a little van, thats at a MASSIVE cost, not to mention, a van off the road every 9 days. 5 hrs is far too long and H&S would never go for it. If you're doing between 4 and 5 hours on the streets now, thats bad and you should never have agreed to it.
Very true.
OnAFlyer
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Re: Evidendence for 5hr Delivery spans ?

Post by OnAFlyer »

fishtank wrote:
OnAFlyer wrote:
infidel wrote:talk is 3.5 using bag,4.5 using elec trolley,5.00 van share. 35 week,6 d2d per week built into workload.£400 per wk,
phased in over three years?.

:no no :no no :no no :no no :no no
I'd take that - 35hr week for £400? That's nearly £12 per hour, has anyone looked at a jobcentre recently and seen how much skilled trades are being paid? Not that much.

If you were delivering 6 D2D you would be on more than that right now.
The 35hrs is a red herring if you are not being paid for your breaks. :d'oh!
I don't get 6 D2D's though, most weeks it's one or two. If they pay me £400 a week basic i'd be on over £1500 a year more than I am now with current D2D's. I can't see it happening though, if RM can't fill 3 D2D contracts most weeks where are 6 coming from?
disheartened
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Re: Evidence for 5hr Delivery spans ?

Post by disheartened »

Sometimes.....the working man can be his own worst enemy,i got to one delivery office about 9am to clear their empty yorks out and cant get on the dork as the delivery staff are packing their cars with pouches and 8,9,10 pouches at that,why help RM out,I then go to another delivery office at 11ish and a there are loads of vans back in the yard,rounds finished :arrrghhh

Now when these guys get another 150 drops on their rounds,they'll be running to the local union rep crying :arrrghhh
dont permissum bastards frendo vos down
OnAFlyer
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Re: Evidendence for 5hr Delivery spans ?

Post by OnAFlyer »

linkinpark wrote:
OnAFlyer wrote:
fishtank wrote:
OnAFlyer wrote:
infidel wrote:talk is 3.5 using bag,4.5 using elec trolley,5.00 van share. 35 week,6 d2d per week built into workload.£400 per wk,
phased in over three years?.

:no no :no no :no no :no no :no no
I'd take that - 35hr week for £400? That's nearly £12 per hour, has anyone looked at a jobcentre recently and seen how much skilled trades are being paid? Not that much.

If you were delivering 6 D2D you would be on more than that right now.
The 35hrs is a red herring if you are not being paid for your breaks. :d'oh!
I don't get 6 D2D's though, most weeks it's one or two. If they pay me £400 a week basic i'd be on over £1500 a year more than I am now with current D2D's. I can't see it happening though, if RM can't fill 3 D2D contracts most weeks where are 6 coming from?
FFS D2Ds aint about now although RM make huge profit from it now everything above what you get NOW is a 100% profit in the future! Thats what they want and thats what we will give em! If thats the case then lets send even more adverts in to imprison our customers to a system that enslaves even more people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :d'oh! :Sick :cry
No idea what that was supposed to say, but if RM want to pay me more for doing more work I have no problem with that.