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London to decide on further strikes on Monday

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lainey
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Re: London to decide on further strikes on Monday

Post by lainey »

why do london get to call all the shots ? :so there
BarryFromEastenders
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Re: London to decide on further strikes on Monday

Post by BarryFromEastenders »

wranglered wrote:
more than anything I too cannot abide to see one single member turned over..and I am sure Barry from Eastenders will confirm that was always my position when I was representing....no personal agendas, no favouritsm, no prejudging...just making sure I put their side across and what the situation was either legally, or in line with national agreements...
Agree, you did everything you possibly could for your members... and are still doing so now.

:Applause

Just a shame many of the above positions within our Union don't.

:sad:
Martin Walsh
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Re: London to decide on further strikes on Monday

Post by Martin Walsh »

It is not just London"s decison. It is this unions decison.

However this union owes parts of Scotland it was not the whole of Scotland. In fact mainly one coast of Scotland, Bristol , Plymouth , Peterborugh , Network site , and the other offices a huge debt of thanks for holding the union line of no savings until we got a national agreement.

In addition they owe London a debt as we have taken more action then any previous action other then the 1971 dispute. All 12000 members have taken at least 18 days with some units including N18 and SW16 have taken 23 days.

If it was not for all the above areas they would not have been a national ballot . As we at times have had to argue with the rest of the CWU both at CWU HQs and in the Branch"s that there had to be a national ballot.

So it is important that the CWU ensure that those areas who scarficed a lot for the greater good of the whole of the CWU make progress with the interim agreement as relationships with managment are clouded with hatred and bitterness.
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Re: London to decide on further strikes on Monday

Post by dvbuk55 »

dingo wrote:It is not just London"s decison. It is this unions decison.

However this union owes parts of Scotland it was not the whole of Scotland. In fact mainly one coast of Scotland, Bristol , Plymouth , Peterborugh , Network site , and the other offices a huge debt of thanks for holding the union line of no savings until we got a national agreement.

In addition they owe London a debt as we have taken more action then any previous action other then the 1971 dispute. All 12000 members have taken at least 18 days with some units including N18 and SW16 have taken 23 days.

If it was not for all the above areas they would not have been a national ballot . As we at times have had to argue with the rest of the CWU both at CWU HQs and in the Branch"s that there had to be a national ballot.

So it is important that the CWU ensure that those areas who scarficed a lot for the greater good of the whole of the CWU make progress with the interim agreement as relationships with managment are clouded with hatred and bitterness.
You'll forgive me for pointing out the heading of this topic states "London decides.......on Monday" - rather than the CWU membership and I hesitate to point out it is now Wednesday - so are you demanding more strikes? - because this appears to be a little bit more conciliatory than your previous post - have you heard something from the PEC by any chance.
fatherchristmas
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Re: London to decide on further strikes on Monday

Post by fatherchristmas »

What news Dingo!
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Re: London to decide on further strikes on Monday

Post by dvbuk55 »

fatherchristmas wrote:What news Dingo!
You don't need Dingo to tell you the news - ask any Manager - they have known from day 1 that this strike and all the bluff and bluster was just that. As a Manager said to me just yesterday "we do what we want" - and he is of course correct. All the meetings in the world and all the rhetoric are not going to change our working conditions one iota. There is a push forward now to finalise an agreement by December by both the CWU and RM and guess what - we aren't going to like it, it will do nothing to improve our working life, we will probably have a no strike clause incorporated and we will get a vote on the agreement, probably in the new year, which will be recommended by the Leadership and the PEC and it will be like lambs to the slaughter again.

Just call me mystic mog.
fatherchristmas
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Re: London to decide on further strikes on Monday

Post by fatherchristmas »

deep joy :arrrghhh HAPPY NEW YEAR :sad: :sad: :sad:
brothermagrew
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Re: London to decide on further strikes on Monday

Post by brothermagrew »

Already seen a foretaste of the Royal Mail business plans for us Scots entitled Scotland C&D Business Plan Local Initiatives 2010-11 (14 A4 pages) which was kindly supplied by my Area IR Rep and IMHO it doesn't make good reading:

One such method which jumped out of the page at me was:

Convert full time vacancies to job share's. Two people work 3 day weeks, delivery only, from 12 hours per week each. Take out the day off cover and all indoor work absorbed in the unit. Saves up to 24 hrs each time.

Was attempting to upload but the attachment’s file size is too large, the maximum upload size is 2 MB.
"Today’s workplace has become heartless and soulless. Employees are seen as units of labour, automatons, functionaries, objects for achieving designated tasks, and as costs to be minimised."
Tamsky
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Re: London to decide on further strikes on Monday

Post by Tamsky »

4 units on the West coast also took industrial action from July 09 onwards. Just for the record Dingo. Irvine took 17 days action.
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BRAVEHEART09
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Re: London to decide on further strikes on Monday

Post by BRAVEHEART09 »

Glasgow Mail Centre has 3 year plan to save over £3,000,000 starting with over 70 jobs next year then rising over the next two.
A workforce a few years ago was 1,200 has now shrunk to 800 if RM continue like this we will be looking at a workforce of about 400-500 people with the biggest majority being part time.
TAXI !!!!!!
dvbuk55
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Re: London to decide on further strikes on Monday

Post by dvbuk55 »

Tamsky wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:In fact mainly one coast of Scotland,
4 units on the West coast also took industrial action from July 09 onwards. Just for the record Dingo. Irvine took 17 days action.
You may want to correct that quote Tamsky - it was actually Dingo who posted that statement and not me. :shock: I thought I was going senile for a while because I didn't remember posting it :wink:
oggie
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Re: London to decide on further strikes on Monday

Post by oggie »

BRAVEHEART09 wrote:Glasgow Mail Centre has 3 year plan to save over £3,000,000 starting with over 70 jobs next year then rising over the next two.
A workforce a few years ago was 1,200 has now shrunk to 800 if RM continue like this we will be looking at a workforce of about 400-500 people with the biggest majority being part time.
yes we need to stop them bringing in these new machines and go back to hand sorting everything.
bring back the string to tie the bags
mjw
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Re: London to decide on further strikes on Monday

Post by mjw »

400 in GMC? people are behaving like frightened rabbits, imho the late shift has struggled this week and we need more recruitment of ltft on this shift to replace the night shift SAs because these are the guys who are being targetted for early retirements and when they go it'll leave a big gap, some sections (HSP, OSS) wouldn't be able to run without them, how pathetic is this depending on OT just to cope with normal workloads.
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Re: London to decide on further strikes on Monday

Post by Tamsky »

My humble apologies dvbuk55 - dont know what went wrong there, apart from my semi literate technology skills.
Sorry
dvbuk55
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Re: London to decide on further strikes on Monday

Post by dvbuk55 »

Tamsky wrote:My humble apologies dvbuk55 - dont know what went wrong there, apart from my semi literate technology skills.
Sorry
No worries :Very Happy