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Royal Mail Dispute - Interim Agreement
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Royal Mail Dispute - Interim Agreement
18 November 2009
LTB 1020/09 - Royal Mail Dispute – Interim Agreement
No:1020/2009
Ref: 24209
Date: 18th November 2009
TO: ALL BRANCHES WITH POSTAL MEMBERS
Dear Colleague
Royal Mail Dispute - Interim Agreement
Since Friday's National Briefing, further meetings have taken place with Royal Mail, ACAS and Brendan Barber. Roger Poole, a former National Officer of NUPE, has been agreed as the independent Chair to take the process of negotiation on paragraph 4 of the interim agreement forward. Roger Poole will be in attendance tomorrow at the inaugural meeting of the independent process. Royal Mail has agreed that the first substantive agenda item will be the company sharing an updated version of their business plan. This will help inform the structure of ongoing negotiations. A second meeting is scheduled for Friday to discuss an improved benefits package.
The interim agreement commits both parties to making significant progress by early December. At a meeting today to review overall progress the PEC has identified the union's strategic priorities to meet the significant progress criteria.
We recognise genuine problems persist in some areas in relation to resolving local disputes and restoring normal services. In front of ACAS Royal Mail has confirmed that the agreement provides for utilisation of CWU members before casuals when additional overtime is required. Royal Mail has also confirmed that genuine negotiations on local agreements mean you can go back on change. However, the company has stated that they believe some of the current local problems are due to our members, in some locations, participating in collective go slows. The CWU has refuted this point. It has been agreed that divisional engagement must continue in an effort to resolve problems and Royal Mail has agreed to a backstop of further national intervention if required.
Given the seriousness of the situation the Postal Executive has agreed to review the position next Tuesday.
We have delayed issuing a national letter to members because of the fluidity of the current position, but we hope to send out a member's letter before the end of this week. In the meantime, we attach a copy of a Reps Brief on the CWU/Royal Mail Interim Agreement. Please ensure all your local representatives receive a copy.
Further information will be sent out in due course.
Yours sincerely
Dave Ward Martin Collins Ray Ellis
Deputy General Secretary (P) Assistant Secretary Assistant Secretary
Terry Pullinger Bob Gibson
Assistant Secretary Assistant Secretary
LTB 1020/09 - Royal Mail Dispute – Interim Agreement
No:1020/2009
Ref: 24209
Date: 18th November 2009
TO: ALL BRANCHES WITH POSTAL MEMBERS
Dear Colleague
Royal Mail Dispute - Interim Agreement
Since Friday's National Briefing, further meetings have taken place with Royal Mail, ACAS and Brendan Barber. Roger Poole, a former National Officer of NUPE, has been agreed as the independent Chair to take the process of negotiation on paragraph 4 of the interim agreement forward. Roger Poole will be in attendance tomorrow at the inaugural meeting of the independent process. Royal Mail has agreed that the first substantive agenda item will be the company sharing an updated version of their business plan. This will help inform the structure of ongoing negotiations. A second meeting is scheduled for Friday to discuss an improved benefits package.
The interim agreement commits both parties to making significant progress by early December. At a meeting today to review overall progress the PEC has identified the union's strategic priorities to meet the significant progress criteria.
We recognise genuine problems persist in some areas in relation to resolving local disputes and restoring normal services. In front of ACAS Royal Mail has confirmed that the agreement provides for utilisation of CWU members before casuals when additional overtime is required. Royal Mail has also confirmed that genuine negotiations on local agreements mean you can go back on change. However, the company has stated that they believe some of the current local problems are due to our members, in some locations, participating in collective go slows. The CWU has refuted this point. It has been agreed that divisional engagement must continue in an effort to resolve problems and Royal Mail has agreed to a backstop of further national intervention if required.
Given the seriousness of the situation the Postal Executive has agreed to review the position next Tuesday.
We have delayed issuing a national letter to members because of the fluidity of the current position, but we hope to send out a member's letter before the end of this week. In the meantime, we attach a copy of a Reps Brief on the CWU/Royal Mail Interim Agreement. Please ensure all your local representatives receive a copy.
Further information will be sent out in due course.
Yours sincerely
Dave Ward Martin Collins Ray Ellis
Deputy General Secretary (P) Assistant Secretary Assistant Secretary
Terry Pullinger Bob Gibson
Assistant Secretary Assistant Secretary
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Re: Royal Mail Dispute - Interim Agreement
FFS keep delaying things and xmas would've been and gone and we all know whats going to happen in the New Year. Wake up you idiots and look at whats going on around you!
So keep on moving, moving, moving your feet
Keep on shuf-shuf-shuffling to this ghost dance beat
Just keep on walking down never ending streets
Illegitimi non carborundum
Keep on shuf-shuf-shuffling to this ghost dance beat
Just keep on walking down never ending streets
Illegitimi non carborundum
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fishtank
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Re: Royal Mail Dispute - Interim Agreement
Stormproof wrote:FFS keep delaying things and xmas would've been and gone and we all know whats going to happen in the New Year. Wake up you idiots and look at whats going on around you!
They know exactly what is going on around them.
There will be a token gesture of conciliation in the D.Os and M.Cs over the next few days.
The PEC will review on tuesday and say well done.
And this charade will carry on until the next review.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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red72
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nelson
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Re: Royal Mail Dispute - Interim Agreement
So it is all the posties fault----------- BALLSHowever, the company has stated that they believe some of the current local problems are due to our members
This means keep talking till Christmas then Piss off CWU
Sorry but this is madness :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo :cfo
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oggie
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Re: Royal Mail Dispute - Interim Agreement
at the end of the day the membership will decide on weather to accept whatever is agreed, if it is no good the membership will reject it.
why can't you doom and gloom people just give the pec a chance.
why can't you doom and gloom people just give the pec a chance.
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clashcityrocker
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Re: Royal Mail Dispute - Interim Agreement
I agree.Despite the claims that we had them by the balls (again wonderful homoerotic imagery) no one has explained what would have been achieved by not calling off the strikes.Similarly what exactly will be achieved by striking again now.We HAVE achieved concessions.We will not achieve everything we want and no amount of clamouring for more strike action will change that.oggie wrote:at the end of the day the membership will decide on weather to accept whatever is agreed, if it is no good the membership will reject it.
why can't you doom and gloom people just give the pec a chance.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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dvbuk55
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Re: Royal Mail Dispute - Interim Agreement
They had their chance and bottled it. Everyone on this forum knows what the tactics are by both the union and RM - stall stall stall - CWU HQ never had the bottle for the fight, they were forced into a National ballot - anyone who ever thought the strikes would be re-opened is smoking pot.oggie wrote:at the end of the day the membership will decide on weather to accept whatever is agreed, if it is no good the membership will reject it.
why can't you doom and gloom people just give the pec a chance.
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k979aaa
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Re: Royal Mail Dispute - Interim Agreement
And for who is too decide who is on a go slow as royalmail puts it is it their pegasus for they still have not taken out lapsing nor their unrealistic duty's IMPOSED UP ON US DURING THE DISPUTE!. One can only look at thier big fat pay checks while customers wait for their mail.
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nelson
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Re: Royal Mail Dispute - Interim Agreement
anyone who ever thought the strikes would be re-opened is smoking pot.
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headscrewedon
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Re: Royal Mail Dispute - Interim Agreement
And if we do, what then ?oggie wrote:at the end of the day the membership will decide on weather to accept whatever is agreed, if it is no good the membership will reject it.
Send the negotiators back in to RM HQ, saying 'we want this, this and that, and if we don't get what we want, we're going to call our members out on strike, just AFTER the busiest time of the year'
I can hear Crozier laughing already
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dvbuk55
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Re: Royal Mail Dispute - Interim Agreement
Crozier is certainly laughing, he knows the CWU is absolutely no threat whatsoever, brewery, p*ss up, more like a monumental c*ck up.headscrewedon wrote:And if we do, what then ?oggie wrote:at the end of the day the membership will decide on weather to accept whatever is agreed, if it is no good the membership will reject it.
Send the negotiators back in to RM HQ, saying 'we want this, this and that, and if we don't get what we want, we're going to call our members out on strike, just AFTER the busiest time of the year'![]()
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EDDIE 666
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Re: Royal Mail Dispute - Interim Agreement
What a load of crap!!!!!.....Quote 'the seriousness of the situation'...so serious that there will be a review next Tuesday???..lets deal with it now!.Two weeks later still no change.No change in the managers attitude,no local agreement back and still no earnings.So 19 days of strikes for what???????????....thanks for taking it serious...do the decent thing and get the strike action back on before its to late!!
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dvbuk55
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Re: Royal Mail Dispute - Interim Agreement
I read the Reps Brief from the web site - this Interim Agreement Document was dated the 18th November - which would suggest that it was in reference to the PEC meeting held today and in fact does refer to it BUT the Reps Brief is dated 12th November 6 days before - so regardless of what the PEC decided TODAY the decision not to reinstate the strikes had been taken 6 days ago by all accounts. What time do Boots close?EDDIE 666 wrote:What a load of crap!!!!!.....Quote 'the seriousness of the situation'...so serious that there will be a review next Tuesday???..lets deal with it now!.Two weeks later still no change.No change in the managers attitude,no local agreement back and still no earnings.So 19 days of strikes for what???????????....thanks for taking it serious...do the decent thing and get the strike action back on before its to late!!
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venom
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Re: Royal Mail Dispute - Interim Agreement
well said i know alot in our office are seriously thinking of quitting the union. when the changes came into our office we were told just be thankful you have a job.dvbuk55 wrote:Crozier is certainly laughing, he knows the CWU is absolutely no threat whatsoever, brewery, p*ss up, more like a monumental c*ck up.headscrewedon wrote:And if we do, what then ?oggie wrote:at the end of the day the membership will decide on weather to accept whatever is agreed, if it is no good the membership will reject it.
Send the negotiators back in to RM HQ, saying 'we want this, this and that, and if we don't get what we want, we're going to call our members out on strike, just AFTER the busiest time of the year'![]()
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many were upset at no support