"Efficiency"

[strangler]

Makes me laugh when the managers talk about being more efficient to save money, etc.
There are people in my office who wouldn`t know a days work if it smacked them in the face. In my experience, the best way to deal with these would be to put them on a delivery, then they`d really struggle and maybe realise how easy they have it.
I blame the incompetent managers for letting them get away with it.
Then you get the people that don`t turn up and sometimes don`t even bother to phone in. Some of these have a sick record larger than War and Peace. I feel sorry for the genuine ones who have been in hospital for whatever reason because these are being hard done by thanks to the piss takers whom should have been sacked years ago but remain on the payroll largely due to managerial incompetence.

[IWW Fellow Worker]

Makes me laugh when the managers talk about being more efficient to save money, etc.
There are people in my office who wouldn`t know a days work if it smacked them in the face. In my experience, the best way to deal with these would be to put them on a delivery, then they`d really struggle and maybe realise how easy they have it.
I blame the incompetent managers for letting them get away with it.
Then you get the people that don`t turn up and sometimes don`t even bother to phone in. Some of these have a sick record larger than War and Peace. I feel sorry for the genuine ones who have been in hospital for whatever reason because these are being hard done by thanks to the piss takers whom should have been sacked years ago but remain on the payroll largely due to managerial incompetence.

Put them on the dole. It's not as if they would be missed.

[Carnoustie]

Strangler, are you sure you don't work in my office ?

Exact same problem at my place. One of the piss-takers was on the picket line on the first strike, which was pretty ironic. He doesn't seem able to come to work regularly when he is paid to do so, yet has no problem turning up outside the gate on a day when he's not being paid

The best part was when he was asked for a quote by the local paper, and he said 'the management here treat us like numbnuts'. This from a person who's had his name and address in that same paper twice in the last year after court appearances for not having paid his road tax (they print a name-and-shame column every week).

Now I could maybe understand overlooking it once, or forgetting it was overdue, but to think you could get away with it a 2nd time, you'd have to be some kind of ... well, NUMBNUT

[whitetrash]

mmmmm

[kinmad4it]

[quote="strangler"]Makes me laugh when the managers talk about being more efficient to save money,quote]

Then pay over the odds overtime for someone to do a cut off on a Saturday because it means they don't have to do it. I know of 1 person who was promised 8 hours for half a delivery, at SA rate!! Who's gonna turn that down But in reality they're actually hurting their fellow workers.

I've no idea about every office, but certainly in ours we're our own worst enemies really. The walks are nowhere near equal with some taking a minimum of 3 1/2 hours while others would only take 2 with one leg whilst walking backwards. I've never heard anyone say "my walk's way too small while so and so's is too big, why not take some of his and put it on mine". However, they're quite willing to take the excess cut off out for overtime, even though they're still working within their normal time. This might sound ridiculous, but that helps no one other than the person on the easy delivery. It eats into our budget when it shouldn't need to. The heavy walk doesn't get altered and the poor sod on the heavy delivery has zero morale.
I've seen it myself. Having cut off I've seen someone doing my cut off while I'm still delivering
The managers are well aware of who gets back way too early, as the majority of posties doing so seem to almost brag about it and are certainly brazen enough to waltz back into the office at 10.30 then ask if there's any overtime going. But does anything get done? No!!

Hope some of that makes sense as I'm typing faster than I'm thinking

[postmanpat]

agree!!

a walk regularly finishes by 9 on a saturday, 10.30 during the week!!

why is nothing done bout this??

allan leighton, shouldn't your highly paid managers ensure this does not happen??

[DirtyHarry]

Whenever the word, efficiency , is mentioned in RM blurbs , please be aware that it's an error.

It should read , INEFFICIENCY.

[Carnoustie]

I've seen it myself. Having cut off I've seen someone doing my cut off while I'm still delivering
The managers are well aware of who gets back way too early, as the majority of posties doing so seem to almost brag about it and are certainly brazen enough to waltz back into the office at 10.30 then ask if there's any overtime going. But does anything get done? No!!

Hope some of that makes sense as I'm typing faster than I'm thinking

No it makes sense to me if the ones getting back early are mates of the manager, or have convinced him/her that they are. It's a good 'insurance policy' with these kind of people to act all pally with the manager if they think they might want or need some favours further down the track ...

[Carnoustie]

Whenever the word, efficiency , is mentioned in RM blurbs , please be aware that it's an error.

It should read , INEFFICIENCY.

Don't shoot me for this, but I always find the phrase 'Industrial Action' being used to desribe a strike highly amusing.
Surely it's industrial inaction

Thank God the CWU went for the one-day strike option, though. If they'd asked for a 'go slow', the numnuts in my office would have had to work harder than they usually do

[DirtyHarry]

Don't shoot me for this, but I always find the phrase 'Industrial Action' being used to desribe a strike highly amusing.
Surely it's industrial inaction

Thank God the CWU went for the one-day strike option, though. If they'd asked for a 'go slow', the numnuts in my office would have had to work harder than they usually do

Compared to the "graft" , and I use the term, graft , very loosely indeed , that gaffers do in this business , striking could never be
described as inaction , us pickets are out in all weathers, etc, etc......

[dongash]

deja vous !! this could also be our office.one of the "rats" who is in at 3.50am!!! (start time 5.00am) regularly finishes off uncompleted walks, and is paid docket to do so. he often is finished within his duty time! " microwave docket"!!!! the same person has loads of complaints off people on his walk, but the managers love this slimey bastard! on the other side of the coin one of the other early birds has just had his walk made a lot bigger! so this "ex cheat" doesn't come in early anymore!!! and he isn't completing his duty everyday. this was a bloke who was one of the biggest cheats. he has now gone to the other extreme, in on time,no car, break before leaving office etc etc!! he would not be told, and has been slown down big style!! regards dongash opg macclesfield sk (100% scab free zone) I HOPE I CAN SAY THE SAME AFTER FRIDAY!!!!!!

[ROCKY]

this lot brought a smile to my face shortly after i started bossin certain lazy sods were really geting on my nerves and i asked my dom why they had not been removed, the answer was that due to rules/regs and the union it is really difficult to get rid off a postman,if you are covered by the ehs you can pretty much do what you want, whilst others are slaving away into an early grave, one lad at our place with a knee injury got from the ehs not allowed to climb steps for 6 months that was half of his walk having to be covered every day on docket,we all know the sorter who talks all morning and waves his arms about instead of getting on with it result everyone else winds up doing his work, but try and do anything about it every one sticks up for him and you are bully and haras him,how about the walk which was done by a 60 year old and then he leaves and a 20 year old gets it, you all know he is killing the senior mans job and making time, but you try to get it increased and the whole office goes up in arms even though it would help out another one of the lads having seen the job from both sides i can say with no doubt we are both the heroes and the villans of rm,geo route was supposed to sort out some of the problems but it in our office at least turned out to be typical rm half a job badly done,but just for a laugh how many off you reading this would go to your dom and say fred has it really easy whilst tom over there struggles every day why dont you move some of his del over
HONEST ANSWERS PLEASE

[johnnyp]

quote="kinmad4it"]

Makes me laugh when the managers talk about being more efficient to save money,quote]

Then pay over the odds overtime for someone to do a cut off on a Saturday because it means they don't have to do it. I know of 1 person who was promised 8 hours for half a delivery, at SA rate!! Who's gonna turn that down But in reality they're actually hurting their fellow workers.

I've no idea about every office, but certainly in ours we're our own worst enemies really. The walks are nowhere near equal with some taking a minimum of 3 1/2 hours while others would only take 2 with one leg whilst walking backwards. I've never heard anyone say "my walk's way too small while so and so's is too big, why not take some of his and put it on mine". However, they're quite willing to take the excess cut off out for overtime, even though they're still working within their normal time. This might sound ridiculous, but that helps no one other than the person on the easy delivery. It eats into our budget when it shouldn't need to. The heavy walk doesn't get altered and the poor sod on the heavy delivery has zero morale.
I've seen it myself. Having cut off I've seen someone doing my cut off while I'm still delivering
The managers are well aware of who gets back way too early, as the majority of posties doing so seem to almost brag about it and are certainly brazen enough to waltz back into the office at 10.30 then ask if there's any overtime going. But does anything get done? No!!

Hope some of that makes sense as I'm typing faster than I'm thinking

How did your walks end up like this?When s.d.d. was introduced walks were supposed to have been balanced out to around 3.5hrs or there abouts,its a bit naughty if some ones walk is 2hrs and another 3.5 hours Trouble is you will loose a lot of duties with such short walks

[kinmad4it]

There's 2 reasons why revisions never end up being fair in my experience.
1. The revision is done by a boss who can't be bothered to put the full amount of time and effort into doing it properly so it ends up being a half arsed job.
2. The revision is done by the more senior posties who purposely leave easy duties in knowing their seniority means they'll be able to pick them, giving themselves an easier time. This however has to be balanced out by shafting the less senior men by giving them huge walks to make up the extra bits the senior man should've got.
This was perpatrated perfectly at my last office. The entire central section had some walks of 2 hours and others lasting well over 3 1/2 hours. To highlight this even more. The guilty party had a Saturday off duty and covered the same duty on the same day each week. Two walks were easily 4 hours on a bad day. But as he did one of them on a Tuesday that one wasn't altered, but the one he did on a Wednesday was. With the extra being put onto an AG walk that was already recognised as being too long.
He's since left and buggered off to retire. Leaving everyone in the s**t.
The managers were well aware of what had transpired but didn't bother doing anything about it.

I'd like to think that not every office has this *I'm alright jack, sod you* mentality as it's hard enough with the management trying to bring you down without your fellow workers shafting you as well.

[ROCKY]

kinmad4it you can tell we have worked together all i can say is exactly