EFFING GROW UP

[clashcityrocker]

well i still think weve been shagged up the arse with a large shovel so that billy and dave can get elected nect time,and im definatly leaving the union,and never bothering to strike again....

oh look im such a happy CAMPER.im in all of umm.lol

To be fair I did appreciate the humour of this post but given that is was posted by a female I was not sure how to respond.The homoeroticism gets lost and there were no lesbians in the Village People.(Apparently no gay men either).The joy of being old and chivalrous.
I think sarcasm/facetiousness/humour all have their place otherwise how could I name group 2 after an early Joan Jett punk band or quote Violet Elizabeth,the lisping girl in Just William.Or maybe the cultural cross references just went over everyones head.
If I was good on computers I could post a picture of Violet but I bet someone else does.

A few years ago Roberto Carlos took a free kick for Brazil,I think against France in a friendly.(cue youtube link).The ball looks like it is going well wide and the ballboy even starts to move away but then it swerves viciously and ends up in the back of the net.Some of you,the minute it left his foot, would be going:He took a bribe;he sold us out;he took it up the bum.Sometimes to appreciate brilliance you have to wait a bit.
If you do not like football, the analogy works with that ball Shane Warne bowled to Gatting.(cue another youtube link.)

Personally I think the union have played a blinder.Yes we have taken our tanks off their lawn but we have only parked them round the corner.The post was not intended to have a go at militants.As someone whose political ideology was forged in the hands of Cubans in Sandinista Nicaragua I know a bit about militancy.I also know about Realpolitik.That comes with age and experience.That is why some of you need to grow up.
We need to remain on a war footing, not bleating like spoilt children.And if anyone finds that offensive - tough.

[spilie]

clashcity you can be the oh so right on freedom fighter all you want, you can quote all the cuban sh*t you want too, you see thats the problem us children as you put it want answers and we want them in plain english not fu**ing cuban, we were all fired up by our reps to strike and not stop till we got what we wanted, so come on clashcity i have looked on this site since the strikes were called off and all i can see is "We forced them to talk" you tell me what we won, you tell me what has changed in 90% of the country since last thursday, F**k all has changed, but hey i could be wrong lets wait on people up and down the country coming on here with tales of managers listening to us in the D.O`s and putting duties back in,giving back some of the 40hr contracts they swapped for 22.5hr ones and most of all not trying to bully and harrass us into working for nothing

[Sci_Dog]

well i still think weve been shagged up the arse with a large shovel so that billy and dave can get elected nect time,and im definatly leaving the union,and never bothering to strike again....

oh look im such a happy CAMPER.im in all of umm.lol

To be fair I did appreciate the humour of this post but given that is was posted by a female I was not sure how to respond.The homoeroticism gets lost and there were no lesbians in the Village People.(Apparently no gay men either).The joy of being old and chivalrous.
I think sarcasm/facetiousness/humour all have their place otherwise how could I name group 2 after an early Joan Jett punk band or quote Violet Elizabeth,the lisping girl in Just William.Or maybe the cultural cross references just went over everyones head.
If I was good on computers I could post a picture of Violet but I bet someone else does.

A few years ago Roberto Carlos took a free kick for Brazil,I think against France in a friendly.(cue youtube link).The ball looks like it is going well wide and the ballboy even starts to move away but then it swerves viciously and ends up in the back of the net.Some of you,the minute it left his foot, would be going:He took a bribe;he sold us out;he took it up the bum.Sometimes to appreciate brilliance you have to wait a bit.
If you do not like football, the analogy works with that ball Shane Warne bowled to Gatting.(cue another youtube link.)

Personally I think the union have played a blinder.Yes we have taken our tanks off their lawn but we have only parked them round the corner.The post was not intended to have a go at militants.As someone whose political ideology was forged in the hands of Cubans in Sandinista Nicaragua I know a bit about militancy.I also know about Realpolitik.That comes with age and experience.That is why some of you need to grow up.
We need to remain on a war footing, not bleating like spoilt children.And if anyone finds that offensive - tough.

Israel has had more talks and agreements with it's neighbours more than most countries. The military firepower is ALWAYS there and as you put it 'the tanks are never off the lawn'. Israel is a hated country in The Middle East yet it stands strong and shows it will never be pushed over. Regardless of how many agreements Israel has with it's neighbours they never let the other side talk them into some silly pathetic agreement. They tell the other side how it will be. If Israel showed weakness then it would be 'wiped off the face of the Earth' as Iran has stated it would love to do.

The CWU has showed weakness. Guess what? It's about to be 'wiped off the face of the Earth'.

[clashcityrocker]

I wasn't aware any of it was in Cuban but if you want some Nicaraguan folk here it is:
Si avanzo soseguime
si me detengo empujame
y si acaso retrocedo alli mismo liquidame.

If I advance follow me
If I stop push me on
But if I start going backwards shoot me there and then.

All the union bashing is backward s**t.
If all of you are so bright why were you not at the negotiating table?
Why were you not the democratically elected leaders of the postal workers?

[Sci_Dog]

All the union bashing is backward s**t.
If all of you are so bright why were you not at the negotiating table?
Why were you not the democratically elected leaders of the postal workers?

All I can say is watch this space.

[Sci_Dog]

I wasn't aware any of it was in Cuban but if you want some Nicaraguan folk here it is:
Si avanzo soseguime
si me detengo empujame
y si acaso retrocedo alli mismo liquidame.

If I advance follow me
If I stop push me on
But if I start going backwards shoot me there and then.

All the union bashing is backward s**t.
If all of you are so bright why were you not at the negotiating table?
Why were you not the democratically elected leaders of the postal workers?

The Union is going backwards! Where do I shoot!?

[Sci_Dog]

A few years ago Roberto Carlos took a free kick for Brazil,I think against France in a friendly.(cue youtube link).The ball looks like it is going well wide and the ballboy even starts to move away but then it swerves viciously and ends up in the back of the net.Some of you,the minute it left his foot, would be going:He took a bribe;he sold us out;he took it up the bum.Sometimes to appreciate brilliance you have to wait a bit.
If you do not like football, the analogy works with that ball Shane Warne bowled to Gatting.(cue another youtube link.)

I go to all my local towns football matches. A few months ago we were awarded a penalty and our star striker Andy Smith stepped up hit it like a 5 year old and the keeper saved it. Cost us the game. A few weeks ago we awarded another penalty. Again Andy steps up and again he hits it like a 5 year old and it's saved! Head coach has now told him under no circumstances will he be taking anymore penalities.

My point?

1st penalty=2007 agreement. Not happy but give it a chance.

2nd penalty=2009 dispute. Not happy at all.

If you screw up once you can perhaps have the benefit of the doubt. You screw up a second time then quite frankly you won't have a chance to screw the third time.

The Union have screwed us over twice. 2007 and now in 2009 with the pathetic 'interim agreement'. Why would men and women have any faith in them and go out on strike again and lose MORE money? Some have already lost £1500+ and gained absolutely nothing.

[clashcityrocker]

And you are in a position to judge if the union is going backward because.....?

[Sci_Dog]

And you are in a position to judge if the union is going backward because.....?

I'm a member. I pay their f**king wages! So I think I'm in a pretty good position to judge if I think they are going backwards or not!

[spilie]

Sci-dog your spot on mate, these union boys are acting like we are all morons and should shut up and let them deal with it, but as you say we are the power without us they are f**k all, about time they realised this

[clashcityrocker]

Sci-dog your spot on mate, these union boys are acting like we are all morons and should shut up and let them deal with it, but as you say we are the power without us they are f**k all, about time they realised this

So what are you going to do?

[Sci_Dog]

Sci-dog your spot on mate, these union boys are acting like we are all morons and should shut up and let them deal with it, but as you say we are the power without us they are f**k all, about time they realised this

So what are you going to do?

I'm gonna put £20 on Birmingham to beat Liverpool tonight. A long shot I know. Birmingham however are 9/1 and I'm hoping Liverpool have no Torres or Gerrard.

[spilie]

clashcity give me £97,000 a year and i will tell you

[clashcityrocker]

Sci-dog your spot on mate, these union boys are acting like we are all morons and should shut up and let them deal with it, but as you say we are the power without us they are f**k all, about time they realised this

So what are you going to do?

I'm gonna put £20 on Birmingham to beat Liverpool tonight. A long shot I know. Birmingham however are 9/1 and I'm hoping Liverpool have no Torres or Gerrard.

Another really grown up post from our resident would-be strike breaker.

[clashcityrocker]

clashcity give me £97,000 a year and i will tell you

So the answer is nothing.
I refer you to the title of the thread.